Phone Logs 2004 May
Verbatim
transcriptions of telephone conversations with Stacy and the kids.
In many conversations, Stacy is in the back ground telling the kids what to
say. We have voluminous tapes of recordings which have yet to be transcribed. It
is just too painful to hear all the nastiness.
D: Hey Stacy, I was wondering if you could call me
back so that we can discuss the babysitter situation some more, yeah because I
need more notice, like if you want me to watch the like for the whole week,
that’s fine, I will do that. But just one day out of the week, that’s just not
acceptable. If you want to arrange with your babysitter to watch them next week and you want me to watch them this
week, that’s fine, I will make those arrangements but the less that twenty four
hour notice, hey I want you to watch the
kids, that’s really not acceptable. So if you could call me back so we
can discuss it, I would appreciate it.
D: Stacy, its
D: hey Stacy, I was wondering if you got my messages
before and e-mails, anything. Bye
D: hello Stacy, it is
Conversation with DCF Jeanette
trying to reach Dave.
D: hi Stacy, this is Dave, can I talk to the kids to
say goodnight. And I was wondering if you could reply to my e-mails. And let me
know if you are coming over Sunday to pick up the kids for breakfast or lunch
or whatever it is or not, I don’t know. Bye
D: (record a message..)(Z:
Hello? Hi Mommy, Just calling you to say good night and I love you and I wanna know how Levi and Jasmine and Sarah are doing, and
that I wanna know how you are doing, and I want to
let you know that I got you a good present for mothers day and I hope you will
like it. Sissy got another present for you and uh, we got a lot of things…(M: .. spent FOUR hours…) .. and
we, and we spent four hours at the mall, right, I love you, here is Mirrissa…
bye bye xoxoxo, xoxoxo, xoxoxo, xoxoxo, xoxoxo! Ah!) (M: Bye Mom.. um, I love you mommy, I hope you like my ring holder and
my mommy earrings and it also stands for Mirrissa. (Z:..
yeah I know..) ..um xoxox..
I love you, xox, xox, xox xox, xox,
xox, xox, xox, xox, xox,
xox,…..Bye I love you .. xox xox..)
D: Hey Stacy, can you have the kids give me a call to
say goodnight. Bye
D: hello?
S: Here’s the kids
D: huh?
S: Here’s the kids
D: OK
S: (ONE OF YOU!!)
M: Daddy!
D: Hi sweetie girl! Did you have a good day in school?
M: yeah
D: Did you have fun with the tutor?
M: yeah
D: yeah?
M: just a minute, I got to get my arm in my sleep on
my chest..
D: you what?
M: got to get my arm in the sleeve of my jammies..
D: oh..
M: So what are you doing?
D: oh, just the dishes and kind of catching up on
things that I have fallen behind.. so
M: Shrek 2 game?
D: (laughs) who am I going to play it with?
M: no one..
D: yeah..
M: play with your self..
D: no.. I don’t think that’s
very much fun because I always win (laughs)
M: you WOULD win!
D: I would also lose because there is always a winner
and a loser right?
M: right, a winner and a loser and a loser and a
winner.
D: uh huh
M: do you want to talk to Babbah?
D: well I want to talk to you but if you don’t want
to, I guess so
M: bye I love you
D: I love you too
Z: Hey Daddy
D: what’s going on?
Z: mmm nothing
D: Nothing?
Z: We are going to miss you..
D: what do you mean?
Z: mommy will talk to you about it..
D: what does that mean?
Z: (Mommy! .. What?...)
D: You can say whatever you want. What does that mean?
Z: xxxxx xxxxxx
xxxxx and mommy went and got this paper from the
judge..
D: yeah?
Z: .. saying
that mommy, she is going to keep us..
D: yeah?
Z: and she is going to have us all week and you will
have us on weekends. At first she thought it was no good but then she found out
and now she is going to use it and now we are not going to get to see you this
weekend or this week or this weekend or next week but we are going to see you
that next weekend. After this weekend, we are going to get to see you that next
weekend.
D: you mom better not try that..
Z: she did already
D: as long as she sticks to the schedule, she will be
fine.
Z: she’s not..she
gets us this whole entire weekend and week
D: really..
Z: uh huh, gets us this whole week even the weekend, and she gets us all next week except for the
weekend. She will drop us off at 6 and..
D: this is not your problem..
I will talk to your mom about it.. you
shouldn’t even be telling me this.. Zach!
Z: ..then she gets us..
D: Zach.. I will talk to your
mom about it ok?
Z: she don’t want to talk to you
D: well, she is going to have to, it is her job.
Z: well, I am going to MISS YOU!
D: I will see you tomorrow, I
am picking you up from school tomorrow.
Z: uh uh..
mommy is..
D: no she is not
Z: uh huh, mommy is. That is what she told me.
D: I will be there tomorrow after school.ok?
Z: OK
D: as scheduled. OK?
Z: Ok
D: so what else is going on today? Did you guys stay
the full time with the tutor?
Z: huh?
D: did you guys stay till three?
Z: yeah
D: that’s good. So at least your mommy is using the
tutor.
Z: but guess what
D: what?
Z: mommy told Mrs Breter
that she, Mirrissa is not going to be here on Wednesday or on 11th
on Thursday
M: (I’ll be there on Wednesday!..)
Z: not for two days
D: why not?
Z: because that’s what mommy told her
D: why, did she give a reason?
D: alright, let me talk to your mom, I love you pal)
M: (NO! …on Wednesday!)
Z: Ok, I love you too
D: I love you too, ok goodnight
S: (… Monday and Friday….)
Z: bye I love you
D: I love you too
Z: she just gets to go Thursday and Friday, sorry
D: yeah? She should..
Z: here’s Mommy..here..
(you have us this weekend…)
(hang up)
S: What
D: Hey, for the record, it was really really really really
wrong to put the kids in the middle of it like that
S: I didn’t put the kids in the middle of it
D: So you want to tell me what is going on?
S: No I really don’t feel like talking. Every time I
try to talk to you, it turns into a big argument and you stick your girl friend
in the middle of it and I am not going to deal with it no more. That was really
uncalled for Saturday. You really should have told her to shut her mouth! I
didn’t come there to see her. I wasn’t bothering her. I came there to bring the
kids shoes.
D: Did you read your e-mail? At all?
S: What e-mails?
D: good one..
S: What e-mail are you talking about!!
D: The one where I asked you to call before you come
over unannounced?
S: Zachary was supposed to tell you that I was
bringing his shoes right after I got off of work.
D: Stacy, you do not rely on kids to relay messages.
S: And Zachary knew I was bringing his shoes.
D: (sighs) Stacy,..
S: I didn’t come over there to stay Dave, and she had
no business running her mouth to me, especially in front of the kids. It was
none of her business and I was not bothering HER! NO I am not going to do this
DAVE!
D: .. Stacy..
You know better than to rely on the kids to deliver messages. If you got
something to say say it to me…
S: Well YOU KNOW WHAT!!..
D: Don’t just put the kids in the middle of it like
that. That’s just wrong. And telling Zach that you are going to do all this
other crap! What is that! Do you know what is going through that boys head
already! And you got to play with his head like that! Are you crazy?
S: I was just explaining to him what was going on yes.
Because they asked…
D: Oh my god why don’t you talk with ME about it Stacy
before you tell him and fill his head full of crap!
S: What do you mean fill his head full of crap!
D: What are you telling him! He thinks he is never
going to see me again!
S: I never told him that he was never going to see you
again! You know me better than that Dave!
D: That is what is in his head. What the hell! Why do
you got to play with their heads like that!
S: I am not playing with anybody’s head!
D: Yeah you are because, damn for him to go off like
that! Its crazy!
S: I am not playing with anybody’s head Dave. And I
did not tell him that he was never going to see his Daddy again. That’s just
bull shit and you know it!
D: Stacy, OK, when was the next time you told him that
he was going to see me?
S: Like it says on the custody papers Dave, every
other weekend.
D: So now we are no longer going by the schedule?
S: custody papers Dave, every other weekend.
Z: (.. I said he was never
going to see us ….)
D: Oh my god Stacy, come on, decide on a fucking
schedule here. I am trying to keep a fucking job here too you know!
S: Well now you can keep your job.
D: Now I can keep my job.
S: you won’t have to worry about missing any work at
all.
D: Stacy, are you going to decide on a schedule?
S: I did.
D: I am going to be there to pick up the kids
tomorrow.
S: No you won’t
D: yeah I will
S: No you won’t
D: yeah I will
S: No you won’t
D: yeah I will
S: No you won’t
D: yeah I will
S: No
D: yeah
S: No
D: I can’t believe you are doing this Stacy.
S: I told you Dave. Do you remember the conversation
we had a couple of weekends ago? You were yelling at me over the telephone and
I told you that I wasn’t going to take that bull shit no more? Saturday was
uncalled for, you should have told her to shut her
mouth! Especially in front of those kids.
D: Stacy, all you have to do is say ‘yeah Dave, I
understand, I won’t show up unannounced anymore’ Instead you had to act like a
raging lunatic in front of the kids..
S: Uh uh, you have to tell
your girlfriend to shut her mouth!
D: .. acting
like you are all high and mighty and walk away!
S: No I did not walk away, I said good bye to the kids..
D:.. you
leave every thing in the air like you always do and yeah, just stress the kids
some more…
S: OH NO YOU ARE NOT GOING TO PUT
THIS ON ME, NO! BYE!
D: Yeah and you are just a hundred percent!
S: BYE! BYE! (hangup)
D: Hi Stacy, you won’t reply to my e-mails, you won’t
reply to me in person. All I asked you on Saturday was to please call before
you come over unannounced. And you can’t even do that. So I don’t know what
else to tell you Stacy. Um, you could reply to my e-mails?
D: Hello?
S: Yeah, number one, I am not going to reply to any
more of your e-mails. Cause I am tired of doing the e-mail thing Dave. You
cannot talk to me like a civilized adult in a normal conversation about the
kids what so ever with out..
D: So what is wrong with e-mail, e-mail is much more civilized that
talking voice to voice ?
S: How is it much more civilized Dave?
D: At least we get somewhere.
S: Really?
D: Yeah really.
S: Since when?
D: Since forever!
S: … Number two, I shouldn’t have to put up with your
girl friends mouth when I just come over to bring my kids some shoes! I didn’t
come over there to talk to..
D: Stacy, I shouldn’t have to put up with you showing
up unannounced.
S: I didn’t even come there to see her, I wasn’t even
bothering her, I did not say not one word to her when I walked in..
D: I was in the bathroom , I
walk out and suddenly everybody is silent when I walk out and THERE YOU ARE on
the porch! Holy crap!
S: Yeah, I brought the kids’s
shoes, and came to check on Mirrissa’s back. I don’t see where you should have
a problem with that. I didn’t stay.
D: I am not asking you to state the law Stacy, I am just asking you to call before you come over!
S: Yeah and I don’t say shit to YOU when you show up
here.
D: yeah and that is so often.
S: Now do I!
D: Stacy, all I do is pick up the kids and that’s
about it..
S: I don’t make you leave, I
am not rude to you when you um, come see the kids.
D: neither do I Stacy, and I
do not fight in front of the kids, which you certainly have a knack for it.
S: I certainly don’t have somebody here mouthing off
to YOU! She had no business opening her mouth!
D: Neither did you Stacy! All you had to say was “yeah
Dave I understand, I will call you before I come over, no problem”. But no, you
had to get a big old attitude, march down the steps and act like you are all
miss hot thing and then you have to pick a fight with Takako..
S: I did not pick a fight with Takako! SHE started it!
D: Stacy you did not shut your mouth all the way down
the stairs.
S: You aren’t going to turn it around on ME! I didn’t
start the fight SHE DID!
D: Damn Stacy, there was no fight,
I just asked if you could call before you come over. You couldn’t do it.
S: well you know what!
D: You just had to get all pissy
about it!
S: I am done playing the game Dave! I am not going to
put up with the mouth anymore! And the kids shouldn’t have to either!!
D: Exactly! So call before you come over! Its not that hard!
S: Well you don’t have to worry about it! And if she
is so bothered by me maybe on the weekends you have the kids, and maybe because
I live here in Daytona! Maybe she should go back to
D: My girlfriend had nothing to do with it Stacy
S: Well then you should tell her to shut her mouth! Where it doesn’t concern her.
D: you don’t have to talk to her!
S: well she needs to shut her mouth to ME! I didn’t
even come over to talk to her. I wasn’t even talking to the stupid woman!
D: Oh I wish I had the conversation on recording.. because you know what, all she
did was agree with me.
S: Well she needs to mind or own business and bout
out! It doesn’t concern her.
D: Stacy, all you have to do is agree.
S: This is our kids, not hers
D: You know what, calling before you come over, is
just common courtesy.
S: and you know what! She needs to learn to mind her
own business because I AM NOT GOING ANYWHERE AND I AM HERE TO STAY!!
D: This had got nothing to do with her! She knows that
DAMM what the hell is your problem!
S: She just needs to shut her mouth to me! The kids
are not her business! She has not business opening her mouth to me what so
ever! PERIOD! NOT EVEN TO SAY HI!
D: you do to her, so what’s the problem?
S: You need to have some balls to tell her to shut up
for ME!
D: Stacy you need to have some common sense to know
that, hey Dave I need to call before I come over!
S: Not just to drop off their shoes Dave.
D: OF COURSE TO DROP THEIR SHOES OFF, TO COME OVER AND
FART I DON’T CARE WHAT IT IS! OF COURSE YOU NEED TO CALL BEFORE YOU COME OVER!
S: Fine then, you need to start doing the same.
D: and I have!
S: Not all the time you don’t Dave!
D: Stacy, if you would read the e-mails, for scheduled
visits, no you don’t have to call. If I know you are coming at
S: I have a lot of common sense Dave.
D: Then use it!
S: Then tell your girlfriend to mind her own business
and shut her mouth to me! Where it doesn’t pertain to her! And I am not going
to STOP TILL SHE DOES!! ITS NOT HER DAMM BUSINESS!
WHEN SHE HAS HER OWN KIDS THEN SHE CAN RUN HER MOUTH! UNTIL THEN SHE NEEDS TO
SHUT HER MOUTH WHERE MY KIDS PERTAIN TO ANYTHING!
D: She wasn’t talking about the kids Stacy.
S: I DON’T CARE! I DIDN’T COME TO SEE HER I DIDN’T SAY
SHIT TO HER!!!! I WASN’T RUDE TO HER WHEN I WALKED UP TO THE DOOR AND KNOCKED!
D: Oh my god!
S: SO SHE NEEDS TO SHUT HER MOUTH. AND WHEN I COME
OVER THERE TO SEE MY KIDS OR TO BRING THEM SOMETHING OVER, SHE NEEDS TO TAKE
HER LITTLE ASS BACK TO
D: All I am asking is to call before you come over.
S: AND ALL I AM ASKING IS TO TELL YOUR GIRLFRIEND TO
SHUT HER MOUTH TO ME! IT’S NOT HER DAMM BUSINESS!! IT WOULD BE JUST FINE IF THEY WERE HER OWN
KIDS BUT THEY ARE NOT HER KIDS!! THEY ARE MINE AND THEY ARE YOURS! ITS NONE OF HER DAMM BUSINESS! AND THE SOONER YOU LEARN THAT
AND SOONER SHE LEARNS THAT THE BETTER OFF THE KIDS ARE!! I HAVE NO PROBLEMS
DISCUSSING THINGS WITH YOU! I AM CERTAINLY NOT GOING TO STAND THERE AND DISCUSS
THEM WITH HER BECAUSE IT CERTAINLY IS NOT HER DAMM BUSINESS! I’M TIRED OF IT
AND I AM NOT GOING TO PUT UP WITH IT NO MORE!
D: you haven’t discussed anything with me. You haven’t
replied to any of my e-mails, you don’t want to hear anything I..
S: YEAH BECAUSE YOU WON’T TELL HER TO STOP RUNNING HER
DAMM MOUTH!
D: uh, (sigh)
S: AND IF I HAD GOTTEN ANY E-MAILS I WOULD HAVE
REPLIED TO THEM!! I HAVE NO E-MAILS IN MY E-MAIL DAVE!
D: I will resend them tonight.
S: I HAVE ONE JUNK MAIL AND THAT’S IT!
D: I will resend them all tonight.
S: FINE!
D: Because..
S: I
REPLIED TO EVERY OTHER ONE OF YOUR E-MAILS BUT YOU KNOW WHAT! YOU
NEED TO LEARN TO HAVE BALLS AND PILLAR TO TELL HER TO SHUT HER MOUTH.
D: so then can you well at least can you agree that
you need to call before you come over?
S: Bye Dave! I will call before I come over BUT DAVE
YOU NEED TO AGREE TO THE FACT THAT YOU NEED TO HAVE THE BALLS TO TELL HER TO
SHUT HER MOUTH!
D: she will keep her mouth shut ok?
S: YOU BETTER KEEP YOUR WORD ON THAT DAVE! CAUSE I AM NOT GOING TO PUT UP
WITH IT ANY MORE!!
D: Stacy.
S: any that remark she made to Zachary when I left was
UNCALLED FOR!
D: What remark.
S: Oh you didn’t hear HER!?.
D: Oh oh I heard the one YOU
made. I damn sure heard the one YOU MADE. You called my place NASTY Stacy!
S: I never.
D: You want to talk about nasty, you want to talk
about Holly Hill, you want to talk about nasty. I have
given you stats. I’ve showed you the map! OH! YOU DON’T EVEN KNOW..
S: When did I say your place was nasty?
D: You said it right to Zach’s face when you were
walking away.
S: No I did not
that is not what I said!!!
D: You got right in his face
and you said “Zachary don’t you worry tomorrow I will be here AT
S: that is not what I said. I
never said your place is nasty.
D: ASK ZACK.
S: NO!! THAT IS NOT WHAT I SAID!
D: ASK ZACHARY STACY.
S: I told you your place is
gorgeous!! I would love to go out and
sit by the water at night. I never said your place was nasty.
D: Ask Zachary what you said.
S: I will ask
him what I said!! he is standing right here Dave. (Zachary what did
mommy tell you the other day, on Saturday, when I left daddy place!!)
Z: (I don’t know I wasn’t listening)
D: Why are you bringing him into it Stacy? It’s
between me and you.
S: I am asking him what I said. That is not what I
said. I told him that I would be over at
D: (laughing.)
S: I told him pretty soon he didn’t have to put up
with the arguing.
D: No you didn’t give him a hug or a kiss. You got in
his face and told him…
S: No I did not…
D: …Oh my god…
S: …GET IN HIS FACE! I GAVE HIM A KISS AND A HUG!
D: Yeah… ok. Ok.
S: And when I said don’t worry, pretty soon you won’t have
to put up with the arguing anymore.
D: Oh.. I don’t think so…
S: And Takako tore up the stairs and she said “oh poor
Zachary”.
D: (laughing)
Z: (I don’t remember that.)
S: Are you calling me a LIAR ABOUT WHAT YOUR
GIRLFRIEND SAYING THAT DAVE!! I NEVER, I never said your place was nasty for
one.
Z: (yes you did..)
M: (… you said it was gorgeous)
S: I never said anything nasty to Zachary either! I gave him a kiss and told him that Mommy
will be there at
D: So you turned that around..
yeah, you never told Zachary anything nasty.
S: NO I DID NOT!! DO YOU WANT ME TO GO TAKE A FUCKING
LIE DETECTOR TEST DAVE!!
D: (sighs)
S: I never said your place was nasty! And its NOT! .. I never said your place was nasty, ever since the first
time I’d seen it! .. I certainly don’t appreciate the
remarks she made as she was walking up the steps to Zachary! That’s why I am
telling you that she needs to learn to keep her mouth shut where it concerns
the kids DAVE!
D: So do you, there is a time and place for
everything.
S: I didn’t say anything bad to the kids Dave…
D: No Stacy..
S:
.. that is one thing…
D: ..you know the whole damn
thing on Saturday could have been avoided if you had just said, ‘your right
Dave, I should have called you before I come over”
S: No DAVE! The whole thing on Saturday could have
been avoided had you told your girlfriend to shut her mouth!
D: I DON’T THINK SO! GOD! … what
ever…
S: Cause she had NO BUSINESS to say ANYTHING..
D: (laughing) .. And you had
not business being here!!!
S: EXCUSE ME!!!
D: Excuse YOU!
S: UH! THEIR MY KIDS TOO!! I DON’T HAVE TO…JUST TO.. MY..
D: All you have to do is call saying that you are
coming to drop off their shoes! OK!?
S: I don’t care if you are around here even though you
have no business here because they are your kids too!
D: And you know what, and if I was coming over, I
would call first.
S: well great..
D: and you know what, unless I am coming over to pick
them up anyway
S: Well great! I just agreed to you that I will call
next time OK!
D: Great!
S: But you know the fact of the matter is that your
girl friend needs to shut her mouth!
D: (sighs)
S: I don’t care to speak to her, I DON’T CARE TO EVEN
LOOK AT HER! DAVE!
D: Great!
S: AND SHE NEED TO LEARN HOW
TO SHUT HER MOUTH TO ME! EXPECIALLY WHERE IT CONCERNS THE KIDS! NO DAVE I WON’T
SHUT MY MOUTH!
D: OK, great.
S: And I don’t think it is a bit funny! You don’t hear
me laughing about it!
D: Well…
S: XXXXX.. XXXXX…XXXXXX!!!!
D: …. If you call before you come over, all of our
problems will be gone, guaranteed!
S: WHAT?
D: I will guarantee that!
S: WHAT?
D: That if you call before you come over, all of this
will go away, I can guarantee that.
S: Great you will make sure she will keep her mouth
shut then?!!
D: OF COURSE IF YOU CALL BEFORE YOU COME OVER!!!
S: IT SHOULDN’T MATTER!
D: Ok… (sigh)
S: It would be the same thing if you come over to my house and I
have somebody here I sure wouldn’t let them run their mouth to YOU! IT IS NONE
OF THEIR DAMN BUSINESS! IT NOBODY’S DAMN BUSINESS BUT YOURS AND MINE!
D: Then handle it Stacy!
S: YOU HANDLE IT ON YOUR END!
D: All you have to do is communicate with me.
S: What do you think I HAVE BEEN GOD DAMN TRYING TO DO
DAVE! EVERYTHING IS ALL DONE YOUR WAY! YOU WENT BEHIND MY BACK AND NOT
DISCUSSED ANYTHING WITH ME!! YOU TELL ME AFTER THE FACT!
D: Bull crap!
S: BULL CRAP!
D: Stacy, I have informed you of everything I am
doing. And you know what you said you haven’t been getting my e-mails but I put
a ‘send receipt’ on it so I know for a FACT that you are getting EVERY single
one of them!
S: Well Great!
D: OK?
S: Great!
D: So we are squared away then?
S: We will be!
D: Good.
(hang up)
Call to Pine Trail Elementary. Couldn’t
speak toMrs. Hine
was in meeting.
Call to lawyer office, Speak to Ty.
Kristen was on phone leave VM. Stacy is with holding the kids based on WA
order.
S: What.
D: So why did you pick up the kids today?
S: Because I
picked up the kids today Dave.
D: So that’s the way it is going to be? Even after
what we talked about last night?
S: What did we talk about last night? Dave? You said
last night that you were going to send me a bunch of e-mails which you never
sent.
D: No I haven’t. So… (sigh) Can I at least see Zach? Cause there is no paperwork
on him..
S: Excuse me, the papers go
for both of them.
(sirens in the back ground)
S: What do you want?
D: Its really sad Stacy. OK,
let me know if you change your mind.
S: what do you mean let you know if I change my mind? About what?
D: About letting me see the kids.
S: you can have them on your weekend.
D: And when would that be Stacy?
S: you get them every other weekend Dave.
D: That is too bad..
S: it is fair as you are not paying any child support
either.
D: Not paying any child support?
S: Yeah
D: Did you read the paper work Stacy?
S: Yeah. And I have already talked to an attorney and
they said you have no right to fill out any of the lines twenty one thru twenty
six.
D: What do you mean I don’t have any right to fill out
any of that..
S: and for one, you don’t pay for day care.
D: I don’t pay for day care?
S: Where have you paid for day care?
D: Where have you?
S: I pay the babysitter all the time Dave so I can go
to work.
D: (sighs) Like I said, just
let me know if you change your mind.
S: I don’t plan on changing my mind Dave.
D: yeah and you are only hurting the kids.
S: really? And you don’t think you are hurting the
kids by not paying child support?
D: The kids are fine. And I do pay you child support.
S: No really, what have you paid me this month Dave?
D: Uh, five hundred and what ever dollars.
S: you wrote me a check for nine dollars and twenty four cents
D: .. (sighs)
.. where is the paperwork…
S: you wrote me a check for nine dollars and twenty
four cents
D: I also paid for you jeep this month Stacy.
S: That is not considered child support Dave. How do
you figure that is considered child support?
D: Well pay me back the money
I paid for your Jeep and we will call it good.
S: Excuse me, the Jeep is in
both of our names.
D: You are excused.
S: yeah I know I am Dave.
D: OK, so if I bring over money, then I can have the
kids?
S: The visitation order states that you get them every
other weekend Dave.
D: So even if I brought you over money, I wouldn’t be
able to have the kids anyway.
S: Not till your weekend NO.
D: Not till my weekend.
S: Not till we can sit down and work this out like
civilized Dave, with out your girlfriend butting her nose in and you having the
balls enough to tell her to shut her mouth.
D: Stacy, we went through all that last night!
S: What?
D: We went through all that last night.
S: I just can’t deal with the stress anymore.
D: What, what is there.. what is there left to work out? You just said, till we can
sit down and work this out. What is there to work out Stacy ?
S: for one, you can call your attorney and e-mail you
know and you know get him off of this crusade you are on about going to court
and taking custody away from me when I
already have custody of the kids Dave.
D: So now you are telling me what to do?
S: I am not telling you what to do Dave. You asked me so I am telling you. You asked me
a question so I am trying to answer it. .
D: So what else?
S: for one, you can quit going back on all of your
agreements you make. You think that it doesn’t hurt the kids any? How do you
figure it doesn’t hurt the kids any Dave.
D: kids have food shelter and everything that they
need.
S: really? Where at? Your house?
D: yeah
S: you are providing their food and shelter and
everything?
D: uh, that’s what it is.
S: Well Dave, they are in my custody
D: that’s very selfish of you, OK
S: How is that selfish of me? It is very selfish of
you to not pay child support Dave. You have been paying since January since I
moved down here. Now all of the sudden you deem it upon yourself that, that you
don’t owe me child support anymore. And then you sit their and say that it
isn’t hurting the kids any. And then you turn around and make accusations to
Children and Family Services that aren’t even fucking true. It in turn affects
the kids because, they took the kids out of school and
grilled them for an hour. While Mirrissa is supposed to be
talking a math test. You don’t think that affects the kids. False
accusations that you actually think I abuse and neglect the kids. That’s bull
shit.
D: Not it’s not.
S: Yes it is.
D: No
S: Yes because I do not abuse nor neglect the kids. In
anyway shape or form.
D: (sigh)
S: cause number one, I don’t slap them across the face
for not eating their meals. That is just not true and you know it. Number two I
don’t leave them alone. I’ve NEVER left them alone. They go where ever I
fucking go. Ever since the day they were born. As far as me not feeding them, I
have never not fed them. Oh I feed them before I feed
myself! I have gone with out eating just so they can eat. So those charges are
unfounded and not true.
D: Never xxx the kids..
S: And on that YOU..
D: And Stacy… on that uh, child support paperwork,
S: ..you put them through
more torture than…
D: why don’t you go through and fill it out for us and
give it to me, and let me know how much you think I owe you.
S: well for now you should be paying me what you
agreed to pay me every month that you’ve been paying me since I moved down here
to Daytona.
D: I was just being nice.
S: Dave ever since you moved me down here to Daytona
you have been giving me seven hundred dollars a month.
Now all of the sudden your little girl friend got in the middle of it, YOU
chose to write me a check for nine dollars and twenty four cents!
D: My girl friend’s got nothing to do with it.
S: Really Dave? What about that agreement we came to
when we, I was still in
D: Yes. Yes
S: Do you remember THAT Dave? And most of that was
YOUR idea.
D: Yeah. I should have also put on there the, that….
S: Ninety nine percent of that was..
D: .. that
I wanted to claim the kids.
S: .. YOUR idea Dave
D: Yes I know… I forgot to put the tax thing on there,
that one really hurt, good one there.
S: Oh is that what this is about? Because
you didn’t get to claim them on your taxes?
D: No that is not what this is about.
S: that’s what it sounds like it me
D: Just saying that it’s a good one..
S: It is exactly what it sounds like to me. For them, you say that you are..
D: So you aren’t going to let me see the kids?
S: You sit there and say that it doesn’t affect the
kids. But you know it does affect the kids Dave.
D: So you are not going to let me see the kids?
S: I never said you couldn’t see your kids.
D: Then can I come get them?
S: No! Not tonight, no.
D: Then can I pick them up from school tomorrow as
scheduled?
S: No.
D: (sigh) Alright bye.
(hang up)
Call to DCF regarding existence of file on Stacy for
welfare or child support.
Call
to Pine Trail Elementary
try to reach Mrs. Hine. Closed.
Call to Lisa at lawyers
office. WA ordered are not yet domesticated in FL.
Call to Stacy informing her of the lack of
domestication. Stacy claims to have spoken to “people” who said she had
custody. She also mentioned a call from DCF saying there was no abuse and
because of that Dave’s accusations are false. Dave asked if he could see the
kids and she refused.
Call to Lisa at lawyers
office. Voice mail requesting phone call to Stacy.
After calling ahead, Dave went to drop off doughnuts
to the kids. Stacy said kids were asleep and couldn’t accept the snack even
though it was only
Call to Stacy to notify her she has e-mail. Requested Stacy to have kids call him when they wake up.
Stacy agreed.
Call from Zach. Tone subdued nothing major. Then spoke
to Mirrissa. Sounded ok.
S: Hello?
D: Hello
S: What now?
D: I was just going over the new uh, thing that we are going off of,
the orders from
S: Yeah?
D: Yeah, I just wanted to make sure you were aware.
Tomorrow I am going to go and cancel insurance on the Jeep and all of that and
tell the Jeep people that I won’t be paying them anymore.
S: Great you haven’t because they called me today and
told me that the Jeep payment was thirteen days late, so what does it matter
Dave? I am tired of you threatening me, you know I am
sick of it. Do what ever you are going to do I don’t care anymore. I am tired
of being screwed over.
D: You’re, you are tired of being screwed over..
S: Yeah Dave, I am tired of being screwed over.
D: What! How are you tired of getting screwed over
Stacy?
S: Everything is always your way your rules, you know,
what ever it is that YOU want. And nothing else flies. You don’t get your way, you go straight to your attorney.
D: If I don’t get my way.. So
the whole issue is its all my way? That’s what this is about? Stacy? Because its all my way?
S: Really! You didn’t pay child support this month Dave, YOU didn’t stick to your agreement DID YOU! NO YOU
DIDN’T. You turned me over to child services and accuse me of child abuse and
neglect! You called the cops on me I don’t know how many times saying that I STOLE the kids, or this
and that or that I am going to hurt myself
or, or, or you know!
M: (… mommy…. )
S: Do you realize what the fuck you are doing to me
Dave! Not to mention what you are doing to the KIDS!
D: I am not doing anything to you Stacy, or the kids.
S: Oh really Dave?
D: Yeah.
S: Yeah, you don’t think any of that affects them or
ME?
D: I am doing exactly what the order…
S: Do you see ME calling the cops on YOU DAVE! For NOT
PAYING CHILD SUPPORT? NO DAVE! DO YOU THINK I CALL THE COPS ON YOU DAVE WHEN
YOU COME OVER, LIKE WHEN I WAS IN
D: Well, I just wanted to make you aware of that.
S: Great!
D: I will be picking up the kids on Saturday because its my birthday. I will be picking them up at six and
returning them at six. And yeah, transportation is to be provided by the father
so I will be picking them up and dropping them off. And um, and as it stands,
your child support is hundred and fifty four dollars. So I will be giving you
that in the beginning of next month.
S: Yeah until that gets changed to the year 2004 Dave.
D: and uh..
S: YOU make five times that amount of money.
D: Yeah and it’s a new state too Stacy.
S: It doesn’t matter, you make five times the amount
of money you used to
make back then. Those papers were drawn up when Mirrissa was
seven months old when you were…
D: Now you make money too Stacy. And
technically… Well if you want to go by the
S: Where is the child support for this month Dave?
D: It’s already paid Stacy.
S: Where?
D: I sent you a whole folder full of information.
S: NO you wrote me a check for nine dollars and twenty
four cents Dave.
D: Yup and explanation of everything.
S: Ah, so your attorney says its
alright for you to do that because you made that Jeep payment?
D: Is that what he said to you?
S: But wait, wait, you didn’t make in the first place
or otherwise they wouldn’t be calling me and telling me that it is thirteen
days late.
D: Its paid.
S: Not according to them Dave. They called here four
times today.
D: It is paid. (sigh)
S: Does your attorney also know you haven’t paid me
child support this month Dave?
D: My attorney knows everything.
S: So he said it was ok
D: Well there isn’t technically anything in
S: You are some piece of work aren’t you.
D: yeah, so are you… Oh yeah, and according to this
Washington thing, I only have to pay thirty eight fifity
for the amount of health coverage for the kids, is not to exceed thirty eight fifity. So, yeah, the um, the health for the kids at my
work is well above two hundred a month. So I don’t know how you want to work
that..
S: So great, so now what you are telling me is that
you are going to cancel their health insurance Dave?
D: Well or that or I was hoping you will help me pay
for it or..
S: So you are gong to cancel their health insurance.
D: .. yeah
and I would give you thirty eight fifity that I will
owe you
S: So you are gong to cancel their health insurance.
D: No I am not canceling their health insurance cause I am hoping you will help pay for it.
S: And how would you like for me to pay for it Dave?
D: Same way I do.
(hang up)
D: I am just calling to make sure you got my e-mails,
and if you could just reply to them, I will appreciate it.
D: Hello this is Dave, I was just wondering if I
should bring the kids’ karate uniforms over. Thanks, bye
Conversation with Lisa at Rice Rose
& Snell, regarding letter to Stacy regarding the meaning of domestication.
D: hey Stacy, can you have the kids call me so that I
can at least tell them goodnight, thanks, bye
D: hey Stacy, its now nine forty five, um, I would
have really liked to have said goodnight to my kids tonight since you haven’t
let me talk to them in, I don’t know how long now, so thanks again. Bye
D: Hello
S: yeah, you got a second?
D: yeah
S: can I ask you a question Dave?
D: sure
S: and please don’t give me your excuses.. Why do you guys run all of this crap on me? You say I got
you fired from CCI, I did not get you fired, yes I may have got you demoted
Dave, and I apologize for that Dave until I am blue in the face. But I did not
get you fired Dave. I have the papers here Dave, why, what, your manager
position was taken away. Cause you were having
relations with Takako which was not, it was against company policy for anybody in
managerial position to have relations with anybody other employees. Or are you
forgetting about that paper Dave?
D: no no, Stacy, but it also
includes..
S: and last night when you came up to my job, I told
you that I had already been warned by my boss, after you walked out the first
time. You proceeded to follow me around the inside of the store and keep
running your mouth, even after I, I asked you politely
to please leave or I’ll get fired.
D: you walked away from me Stacy.
S: Do you, do you know that I got written up last
night! Dave and MY job is on the line here thanks to
you. How do you think I am going to pay my bills after I get fired.
And you don’t pay child support! So how do you think I am going to pay my bills
after I get fired Dave!
D: I don’t know how that affects me Stacy, or our kids
S: you seem to be very good at turning everything
around and blaming me for everything
D: I’m not trying to blame anybody Stacy,
I’m just trying to get to see my kids.
S: you know what Dave, in the last eleven years that
I’ve known you Dave, when have I ever stopped you from seeing your kids?
D: well you are doing a pretty good job this week.
S: what? Maybe I am tired of the, the harassment from
you Dave.
D: what harassment Stacy
S: and the nasty little remarks that you and your girl
friend makes towards me, in front of the kids. How fair do you think that is?
D: you know, I am tired of
you not letting me see my kids.
S: well BULL SHIT!! DAVE
D: well, who’s day was it yesterday Stacy?
S: well you know what you have seen the kids more that
ME! So why in the hell are you whining saying that I never let you see the
kids!
D: Stacy, we split the time equally so that..
S: That is a bunch of CRAP DAVE!
D: so what is your problem? \
S: And as far as the Jeep goes, what do you mean by
YOU WILL DRIVE THE KIDS WHERE EVER we need to go?
D: Exactly what I mean.
S: So does that mean you are going to take the jeep
and I can just kiss your ass? And I am not going to have a vehicle?
D: of course not, I am just telling you that I will
take the kids anywhere they need to go.
Kids don’t need a car.
S: So, so what? You are going to take the Jeep and
leave me with nothing.
D: so you need the truck for yourself Stacy.
S: What?
D: you need the truck for yourself.
S: so what Dave do you want to fridge out of my house
too Dave?
D: no Stacy, I do not want your fridge. I am just
tired of you using the kids as an excuse to get..
S: I am NOT USING THE KIDS FOR ANYTHING DAVE!
D: yeah you are. That’s what I think Stacy. Yeah, to
me, so I don’t know.
S: so, so let me get this straight Dave. You, you
won’t pay child support, you..
D: I have paid child support Stacy.
S: Where is the child support Dave.
D: You can ask legal aid. And I told you if you are
entitled to it, you will certainly get it. So I want you to stop using that as
an excuse to not let me..
S: It is not an EXCUSE DAVE!
D: What is it then?
S: just tell your lawyer to give me a call and get it
done with Dave.
D: they are supposed to be mailing you something. If
you didn’t get it today, you will get it tomorrow.
S: How special
Dave. Just tell your lawyer to call me! Do what ever you are going to do.
D: are you going to let me see my kids?
S: Do what ever you are going to do and get it over
with Dave. You want to take the fucking vehicle, take the fucking vehicle! You don’t
want to give me the fucking car, FINE KEEP THE FUCKING CAR..
!!
D: I just want to see my kids and..
S: WEL FINE!! TAKE THE FUCKING XXX,
WELL TAKE THE FUCKING KIDS TOO! IF YOU WANT TO TAKE EVERYTHING OUT OF MY
FUCKING HOUSE TAKE IT!! JUST TAKE IT!!
GET IT THE FUCK OVER WITH!!
S: What!
D: hey, all I want is the kids fifty percent of the
time Stacy. You can keep everything else.
S: You know what, I won’t
call you anymore if you won’t call me anymore. Come and get all the shit in my house and..
D: No I am not going to stop talking to you until you
let me see the kids, you are them mother of my kids..
S: … leave me the fuck alone!
D: I will never agree to that if you don’t let me see
the kids fifty percent of the time… (hang up)
D: Just calling to let you know that you have mail.
Bye
D: Hey Stacy, its me, if you could have the kids give
me a call, I would appreciate it, bye
D: Hey Stacy, I would appreciate it if you could have
the kids call me so I can tell them good night. Thanks Bye
M: Hi Daddy
D: Hey big girl how are you doing!
M: good
D: yeah?
M: uh huh
D: tell me tell me
M: tomorrow is your birthday
D: well yeah, it is. Did you get me anything?
M: not yet
D: ohh OK. So what is going
on?
M: you know Bubbah is with
his friends..
D: what?
M: Bubbah is out with his
friends.
D: oh he is? Isn’t it kind of late Bubbah
to be out?
M: huh?
D: Bubbah late coming home?
M: uh huh
D: mm that’s not good. So tell me what else is going
on? How was your day in school?
M: ug, not fun.
D: Not fun? Why not?
M: Cause..
D: tell me
M: Everyone says I am all bad..
and I think that I, and everyone says that I xxxx and all that.
D: you think you are what?
M: I really think that I am all xxxx..
D: all ‘rat’??
M: all BAD!!
D: They think you are all bad?
M: uh huh
D: hmm.. you
know why?
M: no
D: hmm.. me
either.. I don’t know why they would think that..
M: Bye I love you.
S: (…get…)
M: (ok)
(hang up)
S: yeah?
Z: Mommy?
S: yeah
Z: Is it alright if we stay out an hour
longer cause I am trying to catch some fish for a friend. Please?
S: Fine but you better be home by
Z: (she said
D: hello?
S: why did you hang the phone up?
D: I didn’t, Bubbah did.
S: I was right in the middle of talking..
D: well, Lou is having Lou’s birthday party, he is
having a birthday party and he has the same birthday as me, that’s weird.. but.. (Zachary!) I will go get
him. (The fishing pole is right there,
its’ no good..)
S: Well I am agreeing to
D: you want to talk to Rissa?
S: Sure
D: (here)
M: Hi mommy
S: hi
M: what are you doing?
S: how is your day?
M: huh?
S: how was your day?
M: good
D: (I told you it doesn’t work..)
S: well I said you can stay a half an hour longer.
M: (sigh), I miss you
S: I miss you too
M: how’s your day?
S: fine. We went to the beach.
M: so how is Sarah puss? The birds?
S: waiting for you to come home.
M: birds still yapping? Are the birds still yapping?
S: uh huh, waiting for you to come home.
M: want to talk to Bubbah?
S: I guess he went to go fishing for half an hour..
M: you want to talk to Daddy?
S: yeah actually I do.
M: (mommy wants to talk to you)
D: (ok) what’s up?
M: are you bringing them back at
D: yeah
S: along with the title? You trading me the Jeep I
want the title. And I will call them first thing Monday and have my name taken
off the Jeep.
D: uh, I can bring over the truck but the title is
probably going to have to wait till tomorrow.
S: why is that Dave?
D: well I didn’t think about that..
I don’t know where the fucking title is.. I haven’t
seen it in like forever.. So, but I will look for it.
S: well can you do that before you come over today?
D: yeah, yeah, I will go do that right now.
S: great and I will call the first thing in the
morning, Monday morning and uh and have my name taken off the Jeep. Because I want absolutely no responsibility what so ever with it at
all. My name is to be taken off of it completely.
D: when have you ever been responsible for it? OK I
get it OK OK
S: Don’t start that Dave, you know what, no no no, you are forgetting
something Dave. When you moved out YOU agreed that ME and the KIDS could have
the Jeep and that you would continue to pay for it until I can afford it on my
own and..
D: Stacy a lot of things have changed since then,
since we broke up, what ever.
S: Just like you AGREED to pay ME money every month!!
D: yeah as a gift Stacy. Yeah I thought it would be
nice but I got tired of having it slapped in my face.
S: How does that get slapped in your face Dave!
D: Stacy, I don’t want to get in to it with you..
S: I said “THANK YOU VERY MUCH” EVERY MONTH. DIDN’T I!! I NEVER SHOVED IT
IN YOUR FACE DID I!! YOU MAKING THAT SHIT UP!!
D: if you say so.
S: How did I shove it in your face Dave!! You know I
have left you alone, I don’t come to your work, I don’t call you, the only time
I call you is when its something about the kids. I
leave you completely alone! YOU on the other hand, call and leave threatening
messages on my answering machine! Send me NASTY e-mails! Which is uncalled for,
you call me BITCH, you call me IGNORANT! I DON’T CALL YOU ANY NAMES WHAT SO
EVER DAVE!
D: right
S: I am completely civilized to you when I talk to you
Dave when I talk to you about the kids.
D: oh.. right
(laughs) sure, that is completely believable Stacy.
S: name the time I called you a name Dave!
D: is there any point to all this Stacy?
S: I am asking you a question, why can’t you answer
me. When was the last time I called you a name Dave? Huh?
D: well in fact you called me a prick on the phone the
other night..
S: NO I did not call you a prick!!
D: oh ok.
S: I didn’t call you a PRICK DAVE!!!
D: ok ok what ever you say.
S: I know exactly what I said on the phone the other
night and I DID NOT CALL YOU A PRICK!
D: OK. So I guess I will see you at
S: fine. And please bring the title. (hang up)
D: ok…
S: yeah Dave, I can’t believe you traded me a vehicle
that doesn’t even
run Dave.
D: (laugh) It was fine when..
S: really Dave, when you try to get it in to first
gear it goes absolutely nowhere? And when I try to get it into reverse to back
up a little more, it won’t even go in reverse?
D: I really didn’t have any problem with it Stacy.
S: Really! Because I just had to have the neighbor put
it back in the yard for me because it wouldn’t GO anywhere! In ANY gear!
D: I just drove it over there like, everyday, so I
don’t know what your problem is..
S: really Dave is that why I had to rev the engine
just to get it to move an inch? In first gear!!!
D: I don’t know what to tell you Stacy. It works fine
for me.
S: you can bring the fucking Jeep back over here!!
D: I don’t think so.
M: (crying)
S: what do you mean you don’t think so!! So you are
going to leave me stranded with the kids with no vehicle and you leave me with
a piece of shit truck that won’t even drive!! Or WHAT was that YOUR PLAN!!
M: (crying)
D: why is Mirrissa crying?
S: to screw ME over MORE!!
D: what does that mean?
M: (crying.. I miss the Jeep… crying)
S: well gee Dave, we are all stranded here, the car won’t go anywhere
Z: (there is going to be no more xxx until we get our
power back.. you know we aren’t going to be able to go to school!)
S: I gave you that Jeep on good faith that this truck
was running right.
D: it is running right.
S: oh is that why when I put it into first gear it
won’t go anywhere?
D: it goes just fine for me.
M: (crying)
S: Are you calling me a liar?
D: you saw me drive it over there Stacy it works just
fine!
S: Dave I pulled out of the drive way in reverse and I
put it in first gear and it WOULDN’T GO ANYWHERE!!
D: Stacy, I drove it over there..
S: yeah, did you rev up the engine to get it here?
D: no
S: and then you tell me that.. Why is it that I put it in first gear and it
won’t go no where Dave!
D: I don’t know. Baby talk
it.
S: what!
D: Try baby talking it. I don’t know,
it always worked for me.
S: Bring the Jeep back over here Dave. You are not
going to leave me stranded here with these kids with no vehicle.
D: you have a vehicle.
S: IT DOESN’T GO ANYWHERE!!
M: (burst out crying again)
D: It goes just fine Stacy
S: NO IT DOES NOT DAVE!
D: yes it does.
S: SO WHAT WAS I DOING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD FOR
HALF AN HOUR WITH IT FUCKING UP!!
D: Stacy, it goes just fine.
S: NO It does not DAVE!!
D: well I don’t know what you did to it
S: I DIDN’T DO ANYTHING TO IT!
D: well I don’t know Stacy, I brought it over in
perfect, fine, fucking condition and well, I don’t know.
S: NO YOU DID NOT AND YOU KNOW IT!!!
D: No it was just fine.
S: SO YOU ARE FUCKING GOING TO SCREW ME!!!
D: I haven’t screwed you at all.
S: Really Dave, if you aren’t SCREWING ME, bring the
Jeep back over and get this truck fixed right!!
D: the truck is working just fine Stacy.
S: so why won’t it go in first gear!
M: It won’t daddy!! Help me!!!
S: I got stuck in the middle of the road for HALF AN
HOUR DAVE! with it in first gear and it WONT GO
ANYWHERE!!
M: The battery is dead..
D: (laughing) so is the battery dead too?
S: real funny Dave
M: Pleeeese Daddy!! The
truck won’t run!!!!
D: truck ran just fine today didn’t it Mirrissa?
M: I want my Jeep baaaack!!!
(Crying)
S: Did you have to put your foot on it all the way
Dave? To get it to go in first?
D: no
M: I want my Jeeeeeeeep baaaaaack!!!
S: I think you are lying to me!
D: I don’t think so.
M: aaaaahhhhhh aaaaaaahhhhhh
S: OK I will be over to get the Jeep!
D: No you won’t
M: aaaaahhhhhh aaaaaaahhhhhh
S: Really?
D: truly
S: I have another key for it! I WILL COME AND GET
IT!
M: aaaaahhhhhh uuuuhhhhhh
D: its xxxxx
S: yeah, and how’s that Dave?
D: we traded
S: No Dave you didn’t even give me the title for it
Dave! AND THE FUCKER DON’T RUN!
D: it does run
S: NO IT DOES NOT!!!
D: yes it does.
S: OK Dave, there is a police officer sitting right
here in the corner, would you like me to get him in on it?
D: (laughing) sure what ever you want. I don’t give a
shit. Like I said only time I care is if it affects the kids.
S: AND IT IS AFFECTING THE KIDS BECAUSE I CAN’T GO TAKE
THEM AND GET THEM SOMETHING TO EAT!!
M: ah uuuuhhhhhh
S: CAUSE YOU DON’T BOTHER TO FEED THEM THERE!!
D: Do you want me to come get them and bring them over
here so they can eat?
S: NO DAVE I WANT YOU TO FUCKING GIVE ME BACK MY
CAR!!! AT LEAST IT GOES AND GOES!! I CAN’T BELIEVE YOU KNOWINGLY FUCKING TRADED
ME A CAR THAT YOU KNEW FUCKING WAS NOT GOING TO DRIVE!!
D: it does drive (laughing) it drives just fine Stacy.
I have been driving it for years now just fine.
S: RIGHT THEN DAVE, THEN EXPLAINE TO ME WHY I GOT INTO
THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD AND THE DAMM THING WON’T GO ANYWHERE IN FIRST GEAR!!
D: maybe it doesn’t like you. I don’t know. I wasn’t
in the vehicle. I couldn’t tell you
M: uh uh uh
uhhhhh
S: you need to bring the Jeep back over Dave!
D: are you going to pay for it?
S: it just isn’t fair that I gave you a vehicle that
runs perfectly fine and you traded me a vehicle that won’t even go in first
gear.
D: the truck runs just fine.
S: no it does not DAVE!!
M: ahhhh uh uh uhhhhh
D: yeah it does.
M: uhhhhh
S: WELL YOU HAVE TO STICK YOUR FOOT ALL THE WAY TO GET
IT TO FUCKING GO!!
D: And I don’t. I don’t know why you do.
S: YOU SHOULDN’T HAVE TO REV UP THE ENGINE SO MUCH
THAT YOU THINK THE ENGINE IS FUCKING GOING TO BLOW UP JUST TO GET IT TO MOVE!
D: well try going easy on it.
S: Dave, I sat in the middle of the road for A FUCKING HALF AN HOUR!!
M: aaaaahhhhhh aaaaa
I want the Jeep baaaaack!!! Aaaaaaa
D: well I don’t know what to tell you.
S: Well YOU DON’T KNOW WHAT TO TELL ME DAVE!
D: no I don’t
S: Well I will be over to get the Jeep!!
M: aaaaahhhhhh Pleeeeeeese!!
D: no you aren’t
S: Excuse me!
D: you are excused
S: Its also in my name, so
don’t tell me it’s not going anywhere.
D: yeah? OK, you pay for it then.
S: you know, I can’t believe
that you will actually give me a truck that is unsafe!
D: It’s perfectly safe.
S: Excuse me!
D: perfectly safe
S: Really?
D: Really
S: So why won’t it go in first gear Dave!
M: Just give us the Jeep back Dad!!
D: it works just fine
M: I like the Jeeeeeep!! Aaaaahhhhhhh
S: That’s alright, you are
the one that is going to have to sleep at night knowing that you screwed me
over on vehicles Dave
D: I didn’t screw you over
S: Oh really?
D: yeah
S: Then tell me why it won’t go in first gear Dave!
D: It goes in first gear
S: Tell me why it won’t go in FUCKING REVERSE TOO!
D: It goes in reverse just fine too.
S: NO IT DOES NOT!
D: Yes it does
S: No it don’t Dave
M: (Can we xxxxxxx?)
S: (Babbah and Riss, GET OVER HERE!)
S: Get in it yourself!
D: I drove it over there Stacy. And it backed up and
did everything just fine.
S: I thought you took it in and got it fixed! Or was
that a lie and you just made that up!
D: No, I got it fixed.
S: Then where’s the papers on it Dave?
M: (He TOOK THEM…)
D: Its around here somewhere,
probably the same place the titles are. If I can find that.
Anything else?
S: You can bring the Jeep over while you fix the truck
into working order
D: The truck is in working order
S: no it is not Dave! NOT WHEN I AM SITTING IN THE
MIDDLE OF THE ROAD IN FIRST GEAR!!! FOR HALF AN HOUR AND THE FUCKING THING
WON’T MOVE!!!
D: It’s working just fine Stacy
S: NO its NOT Dave
D: It’s working just fine Stacy
S: It’s not Dave
M: (daddy took the Jeep away…..ahhh
uhhhh)
D: did you get the letter from the lawyer today?
M: (…. Daddy…… ahhh uuuhhh)
S: Dave I called to talk to you about the truck. No I
didn’t get no letter.
D: oh
S: And what does it really matter?
D: you want me to read it to you?
S: I really don’t care Dave. YOU agreed to the custody thing. I have an e-mail
stating so, you agreed to it every other weekend!!
D: Holy cow!!! (laughs)
M: (Daddy want the Jeep
back!!! Aaaahhhh)
S: Really! You don’t remember sending me that e-mail?
D: Stacy, I remember you saying that I couldn’t have
the kids anymore and yeah, we are going off this new schedule.
M: (I want my Jeep baaaaack!
Aaaahhhh)
S: and you don’t remember the e-mail agreeing to it?
M: (I want MY JEEP BAAAAAAACK! Aaaahhhh)
D: You got to be kidding me Stacy! I am going to agree
to see my kids only every other weekend! You think I am going to agree to that?
M: (…BAAAACK!...I WANT THE
JEEP BACK INSTEAD OF THE TRUCK THAT DOESN’T EVEN WORK!!!!)
S: that’s ok, you can explain to the judge too why you
traded me a vehicle that doesn’t even go in first gear.
M: (aaaaahhh, uh, uh, aaaaaahh)
S: and you are going to explain to the judge why you
did that to the kids!
M: (AAAAAHHHHHHH, uh, uh, aaaaaahh)
D: the kids? Nice touch with Mirrissa in the back
ground there, that’s real good.
M: (AAAAAHHHHHHH, uh, uh, I want the Jeep
Daddy!!!! Aaahhh)
M: Ah, Daddy, I want the Jeep baaaack!!!
D: its right here… Mirrissa you shouldn’t even be
involved in this..
M: I want my Jeeeeep baaaack!!! Uh, uh, aaaaahhhh…
D: Mirrissa….are you done?
M: I want the Jeep back!!!
D: are you done?
M: ahhh..
Uh, uh… I want the Jeep back!!!
D: I heard you the first time Mirrissa.. are you done?
M: yeeeessss…
D: Fine, you know what, this is not your problem… put
your mom back on the phone please.
M: I don’t want tooooo.
D: So, OK, do you want to talk about the fun day we
had?
M: NO
D: Why not?
M: Cause I want the Jeep back!
D: It’s not your concern Mirrissa Lynn
M: I wanna Jeep back…
D: Mirrissa, its not your concern..
M: … I wanna Jeep back…
D: I heard you the first time Mirrissa
M: … I wanna Jeep back… I wanna….
(click)
D: .. Hello? Hello?
D: Hello?
S: So are you going to come over here and see what is
wrong with it Dave?
D: Haven’t planned on it.
S: Or are you going to leave me stranded!
D: Hadn’t planned on it.
S: So you are just going to leave me stranded!
D: Stacy, the truck runs just fine.
S: No it doesn’t Dave, or else I WOULDN’T BE ON THE
PHONE! ME AND THE KIDS WILL BE EAT’N RIGHT NOW!
D: Truck runs just fine.
S: WITH THEIR FRIENDS!!!
D: Truck runs just fine Stacy
S: NO IT DOES NOT!!
D: yes it does
S: Dave, NO it does NOT!
D: yes. I drove it over there just fine, it drove to
the park just fine, and moved to karate just fine and uh..
S: Basically you had to stick your foot in it to get
it to move, DIDN’T YOU DAVE!
D: No I didn’t.
S: So you are just going to leave me stranded.
D: You are not stranded.
M: (I want the Jeep back! GIVE THE JEEP BACK DADDY!!!)
S: So you are just going to leave me stranded Dave.
D: How many times are you going to repeat that.
S: So you aren’t going to come over here to see what’s
wrong with it Dave?
D: Um, I tried it and there is absolutely nothing
wrong with it
M: (xxxxxx xxxxxxxx, Jeeep xxxx OUR JEEP DADDY!!!)
S: yeah there is it won’t go in first gear Dave
D: it goes just fine Stacy
S: NO! It doesn’t Dave!
M: (…. At all…. When can we go to CiCi’s Pizza?)
S: it does not go in first gear!
D: well it sounds like a personal problem to me Stacy
S: sounds like a personal problem huh Dave?
M: (aaaaahhhhhhhh….)
D: It drove just fine over there, and all day and all day
yesterday and all day the day before.
M: (… uh, aaaahhhh, uh… )
S: Fine Dave! When I have it towed to the fix it shop
on Monday, you can
explain to the judge why you traded me a vehicle that won’t run.
(hang up)
S: What Dave?
D: you have e-mail, and have the kids eaten and can I
say good night?
S: yeah they did eat Dave and yeah, I guess you can
say good night. And what about the e-mail, why are you sending me more e-mails?
D: just read it and let me know
S: (go get the phone. Go get the phone! GET THE PHONE!
)
Z: (Mirrissa… Mirrissa…)
S: (ONE.. TWO.. THREE.. FOUR… FIVE….)
M: Hi Daddy
D: How are you doing?
M: good
D: uh huh, so what did you guys have for dinner?
M: Cici’s Pizza, I ate four
sausages pizzas..
D: so what uh, you guys still mad?
M: Uh uh
D: that’s good, everything ok?
M: yeah
D: good good good. I just wanted to call and say goodnight and that I
love you and that I had a great day and I hope you did too..
playing with Lou’s kids.. OK?
M: Ok
D: Are you going to say goodnight to me?
M: good night
D: I love you, bye
M: bye I love you too
Z: Hi Daddy!
D: Hi big boy how’s it going?
Z: good
D: Are you still mad too?
Z: no
D: that’s good
Z: cause we got to go
D: you what?
Z: cause we got to go
D: go where?
Z: to uh, CiCi’s
D: ah, ok, that’s good, good news good news
Z: we are watching Harry Potter on TV
D: uh huh, yes you know about TV’s they are very
important..
Z: uh huh.. I think it’s the
third one..
(end of tape)
S: Yeah, I am calling to see that you think it is so
detrimental for the kids that they went to work with me on Thursday and Friday?
D: Yeah
S: Will you take them to school tomorrow?
D: Yes
S: Then I will..
D: Anytime you need me to watch the kids I am
available or I will make myself available as long as you give me some notice.
Like now, you know, if you called to ask me to watch
the kids the entire day tomorrow, that would be bad, you know, tell me on
Friday that you need me for the kids on Monday, that would be great. But for
taking them to school tomorrow, doesn’t affect my schedule at all so yeah,
yeah, I don’t have a problem with it at all.
S: oh
D: Yeah, just a little notice will be great.
S: I will be bringing them over.
D: Great, um, can I talk to them to say good night?
S: They are already in bed,
they went to bed at 8. I told you that yesterday. Mirrissa had a belly ache
because she went to a birthday party today and she had too much cotton candy
and snow cones.
D: She had a good time though, right?
S: Yes
D: Good, OK, I’ll..
S: I will be dropping them off in the morning.
D: What time?
S: I go to work at six Dave.
D: Alright
D: Hello it’s me, if you can give me a call, I would
appreciate it. Do you want to come by to pick up pink uniform, you have to have
back and um, we need to meet to go to the tag place, I have its address if you
want to meet me up there and we will get all that crap taken care of and I will
give you some money so that you can supposedly get it fixed thanks bye.
D: Stacy, its Dave, its getting closer to 4 o’clock,
most places close at five and I am not going to be able to take care of it
until Thursday, cause that will be my next schedule time with the kids so you
need to call me back if we are going and you want any of this stuff taken care
of, right, bye.
D: Hello
S: Yeah, you KNEW I was going to pay my water bill.
D: OK, so
S: So what? You can’t go and get the tag and give me
the title and
D: No, I think I need to get the registration and
things together so they can get it taken care of.
S: So where do we have to go Dave?
D: Umm..
S:
S: Well why don’t you come and get me and the kids,
because with the clutch going out, I don’t want to drive the truck, eh, I want to drive it less as
possible so the clutch will last, seeing that you aren’t going to help pay for
it.
D: I just said I would pay for it, pay to get it fixed
Stacy
S: When did you say that David?
D: In the message I left you?
S: There is nothing on there about that, all it said
was if I wanted to get it done, it’s almost
D: Well there is another one before that
S: So I have to go buy all the parts for the truck,
the guy, the manager of Miedus is going to uh, do it
on his own time, he’s going to do it in the shop but on his own time. Cause if
I go through there, its going to cost four five hundred
dollars, so I have to buy the parts for it he will do it at the shop
D: OK
S: he said the parts is going
to cost about hundred fifty bucks cause the whole transmission needs to be
taken out and it will be a two hour job.
D: OK
S: Come get us
so we can get the tags and things taken care of.
D: OK
S: OK
S: Are you coming?
D: Yeah, I’m on my way, we were just…
S: (Hang up)
Unknown to anybody, recorder picked up conversations
between Dave and the kids later that evening eating dinner and playing Shrek 2
game.
Dave calls the kids
D: Hi Stacy, this is Dave, if
you can give me a call back I will appreciate it. Uh, just wanted to go over
what the plan is for tomorrow is and um, wanted to ask you if you need me to
pick up the kids after school everyday or on days that you work late, something
like that, that way they are not sitting around doing nothing after school
bugging the teachers, um, yeah, so, ok, so give me a call back, thanks, bye.
D: Hi Stacy, its David again, can you give me a call,
thank you.
S: Hey Zach and Mirrissa, mommy just called to say
goodnight, uh, I’ll try calling you tomorrow night, love you, sweet dreams,
bye.
M: Hi mommy,
S: Hi baby
M: You are invited to Cici’s
Pizza with us
S: What?
M: You are invited to Cici’s
Pizza with us
S: With who?
M: Huh?
S: With who?
M: Uh, with Daddy, Bubbua..
S: Why are you..
M: and Tatako
S: Oh, I’m not going with Takako, sorry
M: (she said she’s not coming)
Z: (she’s not coming if Tatako
comes)
T: (do you want to go with mommy and daddy without
me?)
M: (its your choice Tatako, if you don’t want to go)
T: (I want to go but if your mom doesn’t want to go
and you want to go with your mom.. Don’t do that, get
down (to Zach))
M: (Tatako, I really want my
mom to go)
T: (yeah, if you want your mom to go, yeah, I think
you should go with her)
M: Mom? Mama?. (no answer) (M dials the phone again)
Z: (mommy can come, and you can come and.. )
T: (maybe I can sit with Daddy and you guys can sit
with Mommy)
S: Hello
M: Hi Mommy
S: Hi.
M: Um, we’ve made our decision
S: What
M: and we want you to come
S: Well I’m not going if Takako’s going
M: She’s not going
S: Does your daddy want me around?
M: He wanted me to invite you
S: Huh?
M: I wanted to invite you to come with Cici’s pizza with us.
S: That’s really nice Rissa-roo
but why don’t me, you and Bubbua go tomorrow.
M: No—oh, I want you to go tonight.
S: Yeah, and I really don’t have any money
M: Daddy’s going to pay for all of us
S: I don’t get paid until tomorrow.
M: I have my certificate, me
and you could go for free and Daddy can pay for Bubbua
S: Well I don’t get paid till tomorrow
M: Plea-eeese!
S: I don’t get paid till tomorrow, Rissa-roo
M: umgggg… (disappointed grunt)
M: I got my hair cut
S: You WHAT!
M: Daddy let me get my hair cut…
S: … got to go.. (hangs up phone)
M: (trou----ble!!! When I told
her, she said “you WHAT!!”)
(Mrs. Breter called Dave,
recording started after a minute or so of talking about what Stacy requested to
Mrs. Breter for summer tutoring schedule)
B:
... and I said we could start June 21st or June 28th. We are at…
D: wait.. She said that she
wanted…? Cause the reason she gave me.. was you also agreed
that Mirrissa should have some time off, a break kind of thing because
B: yeah
D: she is getting pushed too hard
B: oh I don’t think she is getting pushed too hard but
I agree that she should have some time off
D: uh-uh
B: so um, we are going on vacation July 5 thru the 12th
so that’s our week. So I thought right before school would be best. So I said we could either start June 21st
or June 28th but then I have to take that one week, and she said
June 28th, and that will give us four weeks um, right up until when
school started, I just uh.
D: week of the 28th, that
will give her 4 weeks off
B: yeah that would actually give her..
D: five. She will have May too..
B: yeah that’s right, oh, no cause it is May right now
so she will have, one, two, three.. five
weeks off, we could start the 21st, I told Stacy if we wanted to
start after 5 weeks we could start on the 21st.
D: right now we are playing Stacy’s ball game, but I
just wanted to be aware of what was going on.
B: But Ok, now we are probably I think she can take
more than a half hour, remember before when we, I didn’t want to over load her,
but um, we could do hour sessions she’s, um, we are actually starting 20 after.
D: have you discussed this with Stacy?
B: uh no but
D: ok
B: we could do hours if you want
D: I think that would be better yeah.
B: you want to do an hour? She’s definitely able to do
it, I am putting only four things down for her to do and um, and we are already
working 40 minutes each and some of, well most of the time we don’t finish, get
to the last one, but if we did it an hour and maybe three times a week? Is that
too much?
D: I don’t think so
B: OK
D: um is there a reason you would think so? You have
been tutoring her for three weeks now and..
B: no I don’t think so.
D: um, I don’t think Mirrissa has a learning
disability, I think it is just more just, well when she is in class she is
distracted, where as with a tutor she has lot of one on one attention which is
what I think she needs to grasp the concepts
B: um, she really can’t get distracted because I am
right there to call her back to task, um, if she does start telling me a story
or look at something in the room and start talking about that, I can get her
right back on task. And that would even be of a less of a distraction because
um, I will be doing the tutoring at my moms’ house and actually I think its near you… (discussion of the
location)
D: on that is near Racetrac
where Stacy works.
B: she (her mom) said that she would watch my boys,
take them to the pool or something so we have quiet work space and many less
distractions compared to the classroom so that might work out well… do you know
what their day care arrangement is for the summer?
D: they are probably going to stay at Holly Hill, the
school there is having a day camp and Stacy has them signed up. I am trying to
convince Stacy to let them go to the day camp in Pine Trail, the one put on by
Volusia county. But uh, Stacy is convinced that kids
should only go to one day camp the whole summer
B: why did she pick Holly Hill?
D: say again?
B: Why did she pick the Holly Hill school?
D: uh, close to her I guess
B: o—oh OK, except that Pine Trail will be closer to
work, well that will be easier for me, for me to like pick her up from day
camp, tutor her and take her back or what ever.
D: oh really, the one at Pine Trail
B: yeah it will be easier for me
D: that might be a good argument ok
B: um, and my times are really flexible so that could
be one of the um..
D: um there is only a couple more days of school left,
they have tutoring tomorrow so I will see if I can get off lunch and all three
of us can talk about it. If that would be alright with you.
B: uh do you want, or will you talk to Stacy before
that?
D: yes I’m going to talk to her tonight
B: yes if we can talk about it tomorrow at three when
tutoring is over. What I am going to do is get a hold of second grade math so I
know what is coming. Um but if Stacy only wants part of the summer, I am
thinking the part that is closest to school is better so we will just get her really
well prepped. I am sorry that week is right in the middle, I had to work it out
with my
husband’s schedule.
D: no worries, um, Zachary.
B: She didn’t sound like she wanted that..
D: oh no neither does Zach
B: uh, she said that she didn’t think he needed
anything so I didn’t push it
D: oh, ok, I guess we won’t push that.
B: oh I don’t know, I don’t want to get her upset
D: understandable
B: and I don’t want to get you upset.
D: no no I am flexible, but
um, he doesn’t need it but anything is better than nothing
B: I have thought of what we could do, he is in third
going to fourth? Well we could just get some materials together and have him do kind of independent study? Do you want him to do
something like that? I could probably get a hold of some beginning fourth grade
and do you think he would work on something like that?
D: I am sure he wouldn’t mind.
B: well I will see what I can put together. I can get
with the fourth grade teacher on Wednesday and see what um well we are getting rid of lot of our
old math theories because… (discussion on math text
books used)
B: what does Zach usually read? (discussion
of Zach’s reading preference)
B: I will see you tomorrow at 3.
D: Ok, thank you Ms. Breter.
D: Hey, I just uh, calling to let you know that
tomorrow at 3, we have uh meeting with Ms. Breter so, its when you pick up the
kids from uh tutoring anyway, um yeah, but she had some other ideas about
tutoring for this summer that she wanted to go over with both of us so.
S: was it her ideas or was it yours because you didn’t
like what she had to say.
D: hers Stacy ok.
S: and why did you go behind my back and after I told
you three weeks ago that I didn’t want Mirrissa’s hair cut and you chopped it
off anyway?
D: Because Mirrissa wanted it chopped off
S: she is seven years old Dave, you knew I didn’t want
it cut and for your girlfriend to pick out the picture and chop it off all the
way up to her fucking ears…
D: what?
S: you heard me
D: my girlfriend didn’t have anything to do with it.
S: I don’t care to talk, bye
(hangs up phone)
D: Hey, can I talk to the kids?
S: Can you hang on a second,
I got somebody on the other line
D: yeah
S: you there? (Zachary, come get the phone)
Z: Hi
D: Hi kiddo
Z: What’cha doing?
D: Aw, not a lot, calling you
Z: I’ll talk to you in the morning
D: Oh you will?
Z: yes
D: Oh, good good news indeed
Z: excuse me for a sec.. um we went to Cici’s tonight.
D: Good
Z: I got a little surprise for you
D: What’s that?
Z: You will see it in the morning
D: Okay.. so
can you give me any clues?
Z: No, or else you will find out its easy, even mommy
figured it out, so you will find out
D: hmm. I guess that is what surprises are all about.
So what else is going on?
Z: Watching TV right now
D: Yeah? what else? Ok,
what’s on TV now?
Z: What is on?
D: Yeah, I don’t have regular TV, so what is on? You
will have to tell me about it.
Z: One of the girls, the girl that is best looking
wins a time of fun, if she gets in she gets the crown.
D: you mean like a Ms America
pageant? So it’s a pageant, OK, you want to tell me anything else?
Z: No
D: Nothing else uh? What did you have for dinner?
Z: Cici’s
D: Oh yeah, that’s right, geeze..
Z: Do you have any blankets I can take to school?
D: Blankets? For what
Z: Remember what I told you about sleeping bags and
movies and all that other stuff?
D: No.. Oh, yeah, we can
probably come up with a blanket, like off your bed?
Z: ok
D: how is Rissa-roo?
Z: she’s asleep
D: geeze..
Z: what time is it?
D:
Z: Watching the Swans
D: OK
Z: See you in the morning
D: OK good night pal, I love you
Z: Love you too, do you want
to talk to mommy about anything?
D: No just tell her I will call her later tonight.
Z: OK, Bye
B: Hello?
D: Hello Ms. Breter? How is it going?
B: Hi, yes, fine
D: I was uh, kind of calling to apologize for today,
putting you in a spot like that today.
B: Oh, that’s ok. I wish things weren’t going so
roughly for you guys.
D: me too, me too. Um, well, if I am able to convince
Stacy to let you tutor more would you be available?
B: Yes.
D: well I wanted to apologize for today..
B: Don’t worry, you have a lot of other things on your
mind than worrying about me..
D: well, mostly about the kids.
B: I know, and I feel bad that, I just wish that.. well maybe it will get better..
D: yeah, the kids are the most important thing and uh,
we will try to do what’s, what ever is good for them and..
B: you got great kids, you have really nice kids.
D: ha ha..
yeah, I agree..
B: Yeah!
D: They need some work but.. well all kids do
B: they are, they are works
in progress. Well if there is anything I can do, I will be around, just call
ok? And If we can start early, I will be here, if not, I will work really hard
with her and.. ok?
D: OK, that sounds like a good plan, Thank you.
B: OK,
D: Thank you Ms. Breter.
D: Hi Stacy, this is Dave, I will try again in a few
minutes, I am just calling to discuss the summer schedule, bye
D: Hi, this is Dave, if you can give me a call back, I will appreciate it.
We really need to discuss the summer schedule for the kids, Thanks, bye
D: Hi Stacy, its me again, I guess this is the last
time I will call, you don’t have to be afraid to talk to me about the schedule,
cause its for the kids, so there is not reason not to talk to me, well ok, I
will try again tomorrow.
Conversation with State Farm Insurance
Conversation with
D: Hey, can you have the kids give me a call, I will
appreciate it. Ok bye
Z: Hey Daddy! How is it going?
D: Hello, good, yeah,
Z: uh-hu!
D: whats new today,
Z: nothing, just my ear
D: what does that… So what did you do in school? Did you do the
camping thing?
Z: what thing?
D: the thing in school where you park in front of the
TV, something with blankets and stuff.
Z: yeah
D: anything else there?
Z: I do
D: ok, so go ahead.. you there?
Z: yeah, to reset for thirty minutes..
Z: the reason I am not kind of talking is because I
keep hitting my ear with the phone and it hurts.
S: (that is because….)
Z: So what are you doing? Hello?
D: Nothing, just wishing you were
here
Z: .. do
you want to talk to sissy?
D: Yes
Z: Love you, see you in the morning..
Oh never mind
D: why?
Z: never mind, bye I love you, here is Mirrissa
M: Hi daddy?
D: how is it going, how was school day?
M: good, played lots of games
D: good good good, tell me about them
M: they were fun, the games were fun
D: that’s all for today? Nothing
else?
S: (Get in the freaking shower now!! Who did this! Get in here now!)
M: I have to go
D: Ok, I love you
M: love you too
S: (yelling in back ground)
D: Ok
M: Bye
S: Hello?
D: Hello, are the kids available?
S: ok, hang on (Zach! Mirrissa!)
Z: Hi Daddy!
D: Hi! How’s it going?
Z: Good!
D: So how is your first day in day camp?
Z: we didn’t go
D: huh??
Z: We didn’t go
D: you didn’t go?
Z: No
D: aw, bummer
Z: Mommy threw away my scooter
D: your scooter?
M: (That’s the xxx part!… xxxx, xxx!)
Z: She threw it away
D: why?
S: (Did you tell him why I threw it away!!)
D: yeah yeah, tell me why
S: (Don’t forget to tell him why I threw it away!)
Z: Cause I was doing tricks on it!
S: (yelling in back ground ..
NO you weren’t!!)
Z: (yes I was!)
M: (NO you weren’t!)
Z: (Mirrissa!)
I was… I was doing tricks
D: OK what does your mom think you were doing
Z: Mommy thinks I was throwing it around.
S: (You were too! I watched you do it TWICE!!)
Z: (I wasn’t throwing it around)
S: (yeah you were!)
Z: (no I wasn’t)
M: (yeah you were)
S: (talk to your dad and quit arguing with me!)
D: So.. did
mommy not have work today?
Z: She took the day off
D: oh ok
S: (I WHAT?)
Z: (I said that you took the day off!)
M: (I didn’t hear you say that..)
D: So what else is going on?
Z: Boring day
D: oh, a boring day huh? Did you guys do anything
together?
Z: huh?
D: what did you guys do together?
Z: what?
D: What did you guys do together?
S: (You don’t know what you are talking about..)
D: What did you do all day?
Z: Sat around, got grounded
D: Well you didn’t get grounded sitting around so why,
what..
Z: No I got grounded, that’s why I’ve been sitting
around all day!
D: oh, so why did you get grounded?
Z: oh.. which
I wasn’t doing this, mommy thinks I was playing out in the road.
M: (you were)
Z: when I wasn’t, I was just crossing it looking both
ways
D: uh huh, are you supposed to be out on the road?
Z: I was crossing the road because we were playing a
game, looking both ways and there were no cars and all of the sudden a truck
pops out.
D: well, they do that a lot. So, should you even be
out on the road?
Z: no
D: yeah, so mom’s right huh?
Z: probably, tomorrow, I am not even going to camp cause mommy has it planned for a babysitter
S: (what ever Zachary!)
Z: so I might not be even be able to go to camp
D: ummm. I see
Z: I couldn’t even go today because mommy had to take
the day off.
D: huh, well, I guess we don’t always get what we want
do we?
Z: I wanted to either go to your camp or this camp
today and I didn’t want to sit around
S: (stop your whining!)
Z: (I didn’t …..)
D: Yeah I don’t get why mommy didn’t take you since
your mom already paid for it.. and
why would she miss it..
Z: because she had a call in from work today saying
that she had a major headache
S: (And I DID!!!)
D: uh. Mm. well its no big
deal I was just wondering, but uh, what else happened today?
Z: nothing else, just sitting around because I got
grounded..
D: you didn’t do ANYTHING fun today?
Z: no cause I got grounded!
D: not even one thing when you..
Z: no cause mommy made me sit on the couch when I was
going to my room and play
D: so what, you sat on the couch all day long?
Z: yeah
D: oh I don’t believe that.. you told me you were out in the street, riding your scooter
Z: no I wasn’t on all day,
the only reason I was grounded was because I went in the road
D: uhg-uh..
M: (OH you went in the ROAD?)
D: so you went into the road and got grounded.. so when were you riding your
scooter?
Z: mommy allowed me but to stay in the yard. But a
minute later, I had to go back inside. Exactly a minute
later.
D: hmmm. There isn’t much room to play there is there?
Z: mommy won’t even let me go to the..
D: well, there are other things you could have done.. you could have..
Z: mommy won’t even let us go to the park EVER!
D: why didn’t you pick up a book and read it?
S: (Zachary! Xxxxx. I am getting tired of the stories you make
up!!)
D: why didn’t you read like, Harry Potter or something..
Z: I don’t wanna read Harry
Potter
D: ohh. So its much better to just sit around and be bored and be brain
dead than actually read a book?
Z: (We NEVER get to go to the park MOM!)
S: (Oh my GOD! Yeah, you never get to go anywhere
Zach!)
Z: (We wanted to go to the park ALL SUMMER!)
S: (Oh man, you never get to go anywhere, POOR
DEPRIVED ZACHARY!)
D: All summer huh? It’s been uh, a whole day there
buddy.
M: (We do all kinds of things Bubbua)
Z: Mommy told us that we are not going to be able to,
not be going to this school anymore next year
S: (OH MY GOD!!!!)
Z: (You SAID THAT!)
S: (You know WHAT!!! …)
D: yeah, Mommy shouldn’t be talking to you about that…
S: (.. sit there with your
song and dance with your little stories and that.. that..)
Z: (But you TOLD me!!!)
S: (That’s what starts all the arguments between ME
and YOUR DAD!!
D: No its not, it’s the fact she is talking to YOU
about it when she should be talking to ME about them. Um, don’t worry about it
Zach, just um, have a good night pal
Z: Mommy threw away my perfectly good scooter.
D: Well, maybe you should have explained to her better
that you were doing your tricks.. instead of getting
mad.. maybe.. I don’t know what you did, I don’t know
pal. Maybe you can still talk to her and she can get it out of the trash, maybe
if you explained it to her.
Z: no she threw it away for good.
D: Well I think then, its time for you to find
something else to do uh? No? Maybe it IS time to pick up that Harry Potter book
and finish it. Last I remember, you were half way
through it. So?
Z: uhg-uh
D: uh? Well, except you left your glasses here.. Well, so why didn’t you guys go to karate today?
Z: we didn’t.
D: I know you didn’t, why didn’t you?
Z: dunno
D: Did you remind your mommy that you have karate
today?
Z: No
D: Ah,
Z: Cause we just thought it
was summer
D: Well you still have karate..
alright, let me talk to your sister..
Z: Ok bye
D: I love you
Z: I love you too
D: I will talk to you later
Z: I don’t know when I will see you..
I will see you whenever it is..
D: Definitely
Z: Like maybe…
D: Like put your sister on the phone and don’t worry
about it
Z: OK, bye, I love you
D: Ok, bye I love you too
Z: (hold on, hold ON!!!!)
S: (PUT your earrings IN!! that’s why you don’t get
earrings because you keep taking them out!)
Z: (Mirrissa..)
M: Daddy!
D: Hi baby, how are you doing?..
you there?
M: yeah.
D: So what’s going on?
M: nothing..
D: hmm? Nothing.
M: just sitting on the couch watching TV
D: Just sitting on the couch watching TV… fun fun huh? OK, what else is going on? Did you guys do
anything fun today?
M: no
D: Did you get in trouble today? Huh?
M: Yup
D: What did you get in trouble for today?
M: same thing
D: same thing?.. and.. you got your scooter taken away?
M: Dad! I don’t even HAVE a scooter!
D: ok, so how can it be the same thing?
M: …. Bubbua got his scooter thrown away..
D: so you were playing in the road?
M: I was trying to get them
D: what? Trying to get who?
M: Bubbua and Cory!
D: Oh… Right (sounding doubtful)…
M: I WAS!
D: I some how don’t believe you..
M: Some how I believe myself!
D: OK, good enough then.. So,
you were unsuccessful and your mommy caught you all and you got grounded too
huh?
M: Yup, I got grounded
D: So what were you guys all doing down the road?.. I mean, what was Bubbua and Cory doing down the road?
M: Playing
D: Playing?
M: Yup
D: Playing, what were they playing?
M: Freeze Tag!
D: What? Tag?
M: FREEZE tag!
D: Oh.. So you were out there
telling them to get back out of the road, right??
M: Yeah
D: Yeah, I don’t think so, I think you were playing
too..
M: playing freeze tag
D: uhg-uh in the road.. No?
M: No
D: Yes?
M: No
D: Yes?
M: No
D: hmm. I think you are just being agreeable..
M: No I am not
D: Ok, so what did you do when you got grounded?
M: wait, Mommy is asking me some things..
Z: (Do what?)
S: (Who did this? Did you do this!)
Z: (Not me)
M: (No)
S: (WHO DID
THIS!! Huh? This was my ONLY hair clip!! Zach!!! … stepped on it!)
D: Stepped on what?
M: Hair clip
D: Huh?
M: hair clip, her ONLY hair clip!
D: I don’t think so.. your mom has a
M: That was her last hair clip Dad..
D: hmm. Ok
M: ..and her ONLY hair clip
D: Last and only one huh? I..
M: yeah. She had the xxxxx but they all got broke..
D: uh
M: .. and
she had the last one and it broke. How was your day at work?
D: it was another day at work, long and boring.. Alright baby, I am going to go..
can I talk to your mom?
M: (Do you want to talk to daddy?) She said sure
D: I love you! Bye..
S: Hello?
D: Hi, uh…
S: Let me clarify a few things..
Zachary was telling you that I threw his scooter away, that’s not thrown away
permanently, I was just teaching him a lesson because I gave him a second
chance and let him play in the yard, and he took his scooter and he was at
first trying to do tricks with it and then he decided he will try to pop a wheelie
and in the process of popping a wheelie, he took it and threw it across the
road as far as he could possibly throw it and when he threw it, it went all the
way across the road and in the big mess in the parking lot. I let that fly. And
then, he turned around and he went into the road after I told him that they had
to stay in the yard, he took and huffed his scooter half way down the road. So
I took his scooter away from him, I made him fold it up and threw it in the
trash can. I told him that if that was how he was going to treat his toys, he
didn’t deserve them. I told him that there was good money spent on those toys
and you don’t take them and throw them down the road. The reason why he got grounded
was because, the lady across the street, his son comes over there during the
day when he doesn’t have school and they are allowed to play. But they are told
that when the businesses are open, they have to stay over here to play, they
are not allowed to be over there by the business. They are allowed to play over
there in the parking lot on their bikes and stuff after you know all the
workers go home and there is no more deliveries. Well
they all decided that they were going to play tag and did not listen to
instructions that they were told and Zachary darted out into the road and was
not paying attention to where he was going and the truck had to slam on their
breaks so Zachary got grounded for two days. And then he started mouthing off
at me because he didn’t like the fact that I grounded him and he wasn’t allowed
to play with his friends anymore because the other little boy got grounded also.
And so he got a third day tacked on for mouthing off to me. So that is why he
is all pissed off. And um, Mirrissa, she was told that she cannot play in the
road section of the warehouse over there with the um, trim and stuff because
that’s what they do, they do the trim for the inside of the houses in stuff.
And Mirrissa decided that she was going in there and start moving the pieces of
wood and stuff, so she got in trouble. That’s why they are angry at me because
they got grounded and Zachary is pissed off at me because I am making him clean
his bed room.
D: OK, well all I wanted to do was ask you if I can
call you at nine thirty or ten, will the kids be in bed so we can talk?
S: It will be better if you can call me at ten. I can
get my laundry done and.. let
me get them all tucked in bed to where they are not interrupting on the phone.
D: Ok
S: I just wanted to clarify a few things where Zachary
is sitting there making up stories, you know that he is lying again.. so I just wanted to clarify at
to the reason why he was grounded and the reason why his scooter got thrown
away, because you would have done the same thing if you caught him throwing it
down the road. I know for a fact! So..
D: No…
S: He WAS at first doing tricks on it and I had no
problem with that and but when he started huffing it
down the road…
D: Ok, I will call you back at ten then.
S: Ok.
D: bye then.
S: Hello?
D: Hello, kids in bed?
S: yeah,
D: good good, um, I wanted
to go over their summer schedule with you and see what plans you had for them
if anything.
S: well I don’t think they should go to six or seven
different camps, Dave
D: yeah, I understand that..
Um, also um, you handled the whole kids in the road very well, it was very
good, um, I hope they learned their lesson, but um..next week I have vacation so um, did you get a
chance to look at the schedule that I gave you that I gave you at school?
S: yeah, but I don’t agree with it, Dave
D: but, well, I understand that, but that I have
vacation next week so, um, so day camp next week wont
really be needed and we can save some money that way if I can watch the kids
S: Well I’ve already paid daycare so
D: I am sure the money is transferable..
S: not if I signed a contract..
And you are welcome to come with me and meet her and I already checked out her
licenses and references and she has nothing bad against her license and I
already checked out..
D: who?
S: Day care
D: What? They aren’t going to Holly Hill?
S: Well, will you let me finish? Because of your
little uh, ploy to charge me with child abuse, the DCF did a child care
referral for the children. They have to go to day care because of your little
investigation.
D: Why do they have to go to day care?
S: Because the Jeannette, the Jeanette lady that came
out here and did the investigation..
D: Yeah?
S: She did the child care referral. So I had to go in
through the child care network and fill out papers for day care and they gave
me papers for the referrals for the day care and I had to go through and check
all of their licenses and check out their homes and to make sure they were
proper and everything. So now they are in day care. If you are willing to help
pay for that that’s fine and if not that’s fine too. I have to pay fifty
dollars a week for child care.
D: What does that have to do with day ‘camp’?
S: Nothing but I am letting you know that they are
enrolled in day care. You are welcome to go over with me and meet the lady, I
am telling you that I already checked out her license and there is nothing bad
against her licence..
D: No I am sure that’s all great and..
glad you checked her out but..
S: she has
nothing bad against her license, the place is very clean, has a six foot
fence, wood fence around her back yard so the kids can’t get out.
D: ok
S: that kind of came along with your little ploy to
turn me in for child abuse and neglect.
D: so they can’t go to day camp?
S: No I am not saying that
D: So I don’t get why, don’t, how does, um, how does that ploy have
anything to do with, why can’t they just go to day camp? Why do they have to go
to day ‘care’?
S: Because, DCF did a child care referral, they want
them in day care. So that’s what came out of your little ploy to stick them on
me for child abuse and neglect. I now pay fifty dollars a week for child care
that I can’t really afford Dave, because you choose not to pay me so much as
child support. Do you know what I make at..
D: I guess you don’t have to worry about that next week
because I will be on vacation and I can take care..
S: .. on
what I make at Race trac?
D: yes I understand Stacy and..
S: Do you understand the consequences of the bullshit
you pulled? I don’t think you really do. Just because you are
all big and mighty and make this big huge paycheck and everything?
D: I understand Stacy, but I don’t understand what
that has to do with kids going to day camp?
S: Cause I don’t think you
are understanding that the kids need to be in one place every day instead of
you saying that they need to go to this camp and that camp and this camp and
this camp.
D: Because they will draw different things from
different things and different camp. If you let them go to karate camp they
will learn discipline and focus and how to interact with other kids, well they
can learn that at other day camps but they learn different things from
different camps Stacy. And actually, I want them to have every opportunity.
S: And your little ploy at school the other day, that
really was uncalled for, pulling Mirrissa’s tutor into the whole thing, really
childish.
D: that is the other thing I need to talk to you about
is the tutor. Mirrissa really needs the tutor and I personally think that she
doesn’t need a break and needs to go to tutoring as much as possible.
S: Dave, have you sat down and talked with her?
D: yeah.
S: She is the one that said Mirrissa needs a break
D: I understand that and she will have a break. And
she will get her break and I don’t think she needs a whole month.
S: and as far as you involving the tutor in the whole
schedule that was bullshit she didn’t need to be involved in that whatsoever.
She was put on a spot there, and I called and apologized for it because it was
uncalled for and its not her fight Dave.
D: The schedule includes her because we need to
discuss it and come up with one and that is what I was trying to do Stacy, you
know, she is going to be part of the kid’s life for an hour or what ever you
have set up with her, everyday or every, well three days a week..
S: No we are going to start out with two days a week
before she goes back, the first week she is going to go for two days until she
gets in to the groove of things and then she is going to go for three days,
that’s what the tutor suggested.
D: if that’s what she suggested, then that is what we
will go with. But she still needs to know when she can have the kids.
S: I agree with that but that whole thing should have
been discussed with me and she shouldn’t have been put in the middle of this
D: and I tried to Stacy
S: No you didn’t Dave just like the hair thing with
Mirrissa! You went behind my back! So…
D: Stacy, so can we talk about the schedule?
S: Yes I will as soon as I get this point made. You know..
D: We are not here to discuss that I want to talk
about the schedule and get that straighten out
S: We will get that straightened out but we need to
get this straightened out too. Since when does a seven year old know what she wants. She is seven years old, she changes her mind every
day Dave, did she bother to tell you how much she was made fun of at school
that day when she went back and had her hair chopped off? Every single one of
her classmates were telling her she looks like a boy.
I mean I could have understood it if you had cut her hair up to her shoulders I
wouldn’t have been so irate, but you chopped it off all they way up to her
ears. She looked like a little boy. And the place that you
took her to? Dave I don’t know if you noticed it or not, but they did a
chop job on her Dave, I was cutting hair off of her ..
D: Her hair looked good, she liked it Stacy..
S: That night you brought her home, I was cutting off
hair that they left on there and it was NOT even, because when I went and got
her her perm, the..
D: It was even when she left here.
S: No because when I went and got her her perm, the lady had to cut more of her hair off because
she had like eight different layers of hair on her head..
D: It’s just called layering..
S: No and it wasn’t even even
Dave.. and I still can’t
believe that you even chopped it off to her ears.
D: its fine, everything is fixed now ok.
S: yeah but I…
D: can we now get back to the schedule now.
S: no, no because in the future you know, you need to,
well I told you three weeks ago that I didn’t want her hair cut, do you
remember when you so called ‘give me permission’ to get her hair cut and I said
no she wasn’t getting her hair cut and then you turned around and last weekend
and got her hair cut anyway?
D: Well can we get back to the schedule?
S: well it won’t ever happen again because…that was
just bullshit you went behind my back after I said I didn’t want her hair cut.. so this is where you need to get
things straightened out, don’t go behind my back. We are both their parents and
we need to discuss things before they get done. It doesn’t give you the right
to just go and do what ever the hell you want. I am not the silent parent here
and I have told you that several times.
D: I understand and I agree and we will talk about
that some other time.
S: why not talk about it tonight we have nothing else.
And you are willing to talk about things.
D: because we need to..
S: so why not talk about it tonight and get everything
all straightened out tonight dave.
D: well then let’s get the schedule straightened all
out.
S: Well as far as the schedule goes next week I will
have to call and talk to the lady from CPS because they are paying part of the
child care. They are paying twelve dollars a week so I don’t know what the
rules are so and I’ll find out, I will call her tomorrow and find out what it
does because she is the one that did the referral for the day care, not me.
D: OK
S: and I have no problems with you seeing the kids but
the one thing I will not put up with is your girl friends mouth, that’s just
uncalled for. And if I do come over there to see the kids, well I will call before I come
first, and you know what, I have no problems with you calling here at night to
say good night to the kids and it should be visa versa for me and you should
have no problems with me calling to say goodnight to them.
D: I understand Stacy and I don’t and in fact I make
them call you and at least leave you a message every night.
S: but, no Dave, one thing that needs to get
straightened out Dave is that she really needs to shut up. I don’t come over
there to talk to her, I don’t come over there to see her, you know, if I have something to say to you, I say it to you. I stop
by there for a quick second to drop off the kids something, that shouldn’t be a
problem with you either because I am not coming to disrupt your visit with the
kids, I am simply coming over to..
D: just call first.
S: I am not coming over there to cause problems, I do not come over there to argue with your
girlfriend. Less I see her less I speak to her the
happier I am and.
D: Ok, I understand that and if you call first
everything will be happy.
S: Well, the point I was trying to make was if I call
first and it’s the same here, whether you call first or not, if I have somebody
over here Dave, it shouldn’t matter if you call first or if you just pop up
over here out of the blue to say hi to the kids, who ever is over here, I don’t
care who is over here if it is a friend or neighbor or who ever it is they have
absolutely no right to say anything to you what so ever..
D: I understand Stacy…
S: .. and the same thing at
your place Dave, whether if
I pop over there to drop off something to the kids or to give
them a kiss that should not be a crime she has no right to run her mouth
whether it be her, or your neighbor or a friend of yours, they have no right to
say anything to me.
D: I understand Stacy and there is no problem as long
as you call first.
S: You are not getting the point Dave..
D: I am getting the point and I disagree..
S: How is it that you disagree?!
D: I am just telling you I understand and I disagree.
S: How are you disagreeing Dave!
D: You are saying that it is ok for you to pop in any
time and give the kids a kiss and hug and what ever and I am disagreeing..
S: NO! I am not saying THAT DAVE! I am trying to make
a POINT! I already SAID I would call first and..
D: If you call ahead..
S: Don’t cut me off Dave!..
D: .. I will be able to get
anybody over here out of the way..
S: Don’t you cut me off..
D: .. but
if you pop over here I can’t get anybody out of the way Stacy.
S: I am not asking to get them out of the way, I am asking you out of respect for ME. I don’t come
over there to start arguments with anybody Dave. Especially I don’t come over
there to talk to your girl friend. All that I am asking, is when our children
are around, she needs to shut her mouth and not start any arguments because because
it was really really uncalled for Dave, the stuff
that she was saying, I didn’t come over there to bother her and she said I am
bothering her. That’s the point I am trying to make.
D: I understand Stacy and.,.
S: And you know what! She is going to have to get used
to the fact of ME being around because my kids are only seven and nine. I am
not going anywhere. So if I am bothering her so much, she needs to go over
there to
D: I understand and if you call before you come over,
I can get her out of the way and you can spend time with the kids, in peace and
you won’t have to worry about anybody saying anything to you, OK?
S: That’s fine but all I am saying is that even if she
is there, I should be able to spend time with my kids in peace and she should
have enough common respect and act like an adult and keep her mouth shut and
stay out of it, that’s what I’m saying. Because it is the same thing if I have
company over at my house, I don’t give a shit who it
is I don’t care if it is my family member here, if you come over to see YOUR
kids, that’s YOUR business and they have no right to say shit to you. You have every right to come over and see your
kids any time you want. That does not give them the right to run their mouth on
to you. Do you understand what I am saying?
D: I un…
S: I don’t care if I have a houseful of people, that does not give anybody the right here to say
shit to you.
D: I understand Stacy.. and I ..
S: That’s what she needs to understand, it shouldn’t
matter, she just needs to get used to the idea that I am around and I am not
going anywhere..
D: I understand Stacy..
S: .. and
if she has such a problem with me, she doesn’t need to be over in Daytona
that’s what I am saying. Because when she runs her mouth she may be doing it
out of vengefulness towards ME but its affecting our kids! Its
not fair to them because they didn’t ask for it.
D: OK I will keep Takako under control OK?
S: OK. As long as we have that straightened out that’s
fine! I have no desire to speak to her or even look at her so..
D: OK understood, OK?
S: and you know, that is what
I tried to get across to you long time ago…
D: OK next week, I have vacation and you are going to
try to arrange your um, DCF or what ever to move it to..
um.. well, I would personally
like to.. um.. well they have
karate camp, which is already paid for, next week, and..
S: see that’s where the other problem arises! You and
your mother, you go and pay for all of this STUFF! OK,..
D: Stacy, this is something I really want for the kids.. and..
S: Yes but, this, this is what I am talking about
Dave! Its not just ONE parent! You seeming to take
over EVERYTHING!
D: I am not trying to take over everything..
S: No but you…
D: I am trying to do what is best for the kids and..
S: Yes but we need to do what is best for the kids
TOGETHER Dave!! You don’t try to..
D: I’ve been trying to but every time I do I get the
door slammed in my
face. That’s what it feels like to me.
S: ..But ..
D: And every time I try to talk about it you know, you
just clam up and say ‘you never do this and you never do that!’..
S: ..No..
D: and I have been trying to talk to you about this
for months now
Stacy.
S: Let me tell YOU why I clam up Dave, because when
you usually call to talk to me, you usually have your little girlfriend, she is
in the back ground running her mouth on everything and telling you what to say
and how to say it. I’m sorry but I am not going to discuss anything with you
any more with her there. If you cannot talk to me, like a civilized adult with
out her around speak for your self..
D: I am always speaking for myself, always
S: Let me finish! If we cannot have a conversation
over the telephone with out her running her mouth in the background, cause
quite frankly, it doesn’t concern her, yes she comes over to your house, yes
she spends time over there when the kids are there, but quite frankly, these
kids do not concern
her in the least and what these kids does not concern her in the least, it is
between me and you and me and you only, and you know..
D: I understand and..
S: .. for
the simple fact that..
D: can we talk about Karate camp..
S: yes I am getting to that, but will you let me
finish instead of interrupting me, this is one of the things that I am trying
to tell you that we needed to discuss together. And you going in and paying for
things! And then wanting to discuss things! I am sorry but that doesn’t fly
with me, that is bullshit and its like that camp that your mother already paid
for and you just send me an e-mail about it and how its going to be?. NO NO that don’t work. I don’t go and
pay for thing until I …
D: So no matter what this is to the kids or how it
affects the kids or how good it can be for the kids it doesn’t matter because I
didn’t talk to you about it first?
S: YOU! you don’t seem to
understand! I am part of the device too! And..
D: You ARE! and I am..
S: But you are completely.. and maybe you are not doing it on purpose but.. you know how that it feels! You said that it feels to you
that I am constantly slamming the door in your face and clamming up to you when
you want to talk about the kids, but YOU put yourself in MY position, how do
you think you would feel
YOU if I went behind YOUR back and paid for ALL this shit and did
ALL this shit and then you were told that this was how it was going to be
whether you like it or not!! Does that sound like..
D: OK Stacy, if you..
S: How would that feel to you huh? When it is already paid
for and..
D: Stacy,
S: ..Whether or not you voice
your opinion..
D: Stacy, if you did that and it was also the best
interest of the kids, it was good for the kids..
S: ..I don’t…
D: .. I, of course I would
not have a problem with it.
S: I, I, I beg to differ with you on that! I know for
a fact that you would be angry as hell that I did not discuss it with you first
before I went and did it.
D: No.
S: That’s what I am trying to get across to you and you know, YOU do things backwards! You go and pay for
something and then you…
D: Stacy, I can always get my money back, OK
S: That is not the point! You know, when I talk to you
everything about the kids, you know when we need to discuss it fifty fifty, come up with a solution TOGETHER! That doesn’t mean
that you go and pay for things first and then come talk to me about it.. Do you understand what I am trying to say to you! I am
NOT trying to be a bitch, OK?
D: Stacy, I understand what you are saying, all I was
trying to do is secure a spot, camps fill up fast. I pay for it and then their
spot is secure, I show it to you, you can agree or disagree, if you disagree, I
get my money back, if you agree kids go and have a great time. I don’t pay for
it or secure a spot, I go to talk to you about it, you agree and I go back and
boom, there is nothing left. Same as what you did with Holly Hill Stacy, you
know, if you waited till today to go down there and sign up the kids, no way!.
S: huh, it just makes me angry and you go and pay for
shit and just like your mother paid for..
D: Stacy, I just went over this!
S: I know but, but please let me finish. And to think
that your mother..
D: Stacy, I told you about
S: and I did and I still don’t agree with them, they,
with all the shit they have been through Dave, they need to be here..
D: They need to learn independence.
S: and they will learn independence here but you know,
its kind of hard, I don’t know what your rules are over there but I do know
that when they come back from with you and her, I know exactly Zach said
several times that when Mirrissa is throwing a tantrum and that Takako goes “waa waa waa”
and makes fun of her! That’s not helping Mirrissa when she acts like a baby
that’s not helping her at all, I hate to say this but that’s not helping her at
all. That is being childish on Takako’s part! That is not helping Mirrissa in
the least Dave!
D: I understand and we are not here to talk about that
Stacy, we are here to talk about..
S: NO but YOU are talking about making the kids learn
independence and make them grow up and I am trying to that things that happen
when they are not here is not helping Mirrissa in the least! Do you know that
she has regressed like FOUR times as bad as a BABY since this shit started! And
with Takako making fun of her as a baby that, that is not helping her any and
the least!
D: I understand and I am handling it
S: and and I try to talk to
you about it and you get angry at me and start defending HER! You know WHAT I
can’t understand why you would defend HER when she is doing that shit to the
kids! You know the only thing I can’t understand is why you would TOLERATE
anybody doing that to our kids! Do you understand what I am saying Dave.
D: Yes, I understand and I told you I am handling it.
S: and to say you wouldn’t tolerate it if I had
somebody around here and THEY were doing that. In fact, I know for a FACT that
if I had somebody here
and they did that to the kids, they will be out the door fucking fast! And it
would NOT be funny.
D: Yes I understand and that’s what makes you a great
mother. OK?
S: But you know, I am just, you bring those points up
and I am just trying to respond to those points and to get off of the subject,
I..
D: OK, lets see, from the seventh to the eleventh,
they have karate camp. It runs from
S: I haven’t paid for day camp because I can’t afford
it Dave. YOU at first, at first when I signed them up for camp agreed to help
pay for half of camp, then you started this crap, well I have it in an e-mail
where you are saying that you’re not helping pay for any of it because it isn’t
in the custody papers. Well that’s bullshit because that affects the kids! YOU
are just being childish about that! So now that you turned me over to child
abuse and neglect, I now have to PAY FIFITY BUCKS a week for day care, I CAN’T
afford BOTH!. Do you know what I make at Race Trac!!!
There is no way in hell can I afford NINETY dollars a week for day camp because
it costs FIFTY dollars for fucking day care!
D: I understand,
S: I can barely afford to buy groceries
D: I understand Stacy,
S: I wish you wouldn’t have started all of this. You
know that, I wish you would have thought about all that what the consequences
are going to be but you don’t do that you do it and then think about it after
all the damage is already done!
D: So OK, what about karate camp?
S: I’ll see what I can do about that day care and um,
I have no problems with them going to karate camp ok,
D: OK
S: and you know what, quite frankly going forward,
COME AND TALK TO ME! Before you go on and pay for it behind my back!
D: OK
S: and no more making little PLOTS WITH YOUR MOTHER to
send my children, you know THIRTY MILES AWAY to camp and then not even bother
to discuss it with me. And when I call
to discuss it with your mother, she says that its not
her place to discuss it! Oh, I am sorry, she is the one that fucking paid for
it! And now all of the sudden she is deciding that it is not her place to
discuss it?!
D: Stacy, like I told you, we told you about that months in advance. And we paid for it to hold the spot.
OK?
S: But I..
D: Its not about keeping
Stacy out of the loop. Its about holding the spot for
the kids, bringing Stacy in the loop, and going from there.
S: Well what I don’t like is that I never did anything
to your parents and for her to sit there on the phone and say that, that you
know, its not her place to discuss it with me when she
is the one that paid for it? That’s WRONG!
D: I don’t know anything about that conversation,
she didn’t mention anything about it.
S: Well you can mention THIS to her, because she seems to don’t call here anymore all of the sudden. I don’t know why that is but all this time, before like when I lived in Lakeland, its this ‘ohh, I love you, I miss you and I want you and the kids to move up here” and all of the sudden, its like, I am some awful person that she can’t stand to talk to and I haven’t done shit to her! Just tell her for ME that, that when she is going to pay for something for the kids, you know, BE
HIND my back or whatever, and then she just sits there
and..
D: Its not behind your back..
S: ..and then she says that
she can’t even discuss this with me! That’s wrong, if she is going to pay for
something, she can sit and discuss it with me!
D: I understand and I will see what I can do OK?
S: You know I am not an awful person Dave!
D: OK, I will talk to my mom and um, well its been a while since I talked to my mom and well, she
tried to call me on my birth day but we didn’t through. Um, OK so, that takes
care of the next two weeks and we..
S: and NO I don’t agree with that other camp, I was
looking at the schedule a little bit and..
D: wait, you don’t, what? Before we even get to that,
so, from the fourteenth and the eighteenth, they should be in day care, so that
DCF can do their evaluation of the kids right?
S: yes
D: Ok, so that week is taken care of and I will help
pay for it OK.
S: What about that day camp that I enrolled them in?
Are you going to help me pay for that or not? Or I could just confess to that
since I am already paying daycare fifty bucks a week.
D: well hopefully they will only have to go a week or
every other week or something like that.
S: Well it all depends on what DCF says Dave
D: Yes, of course, yeah, but if you look at the
schedule, ok, first tell me the reasons why you don’t think this other camp is
all that great. They will be in the school that they are going and they will be
with their class mates, it will be closer to the tutor which I guess would meet
her needs because yeah, they will be going back to this camp.
S: Not it would not meet her needs because for one..
D: well she could pick them up which will help..
S: No
D: .. it
would help us out and..
S: ..No it is not ..
D:.. we
won’t have to take the time out of our day to pick, take them to her
S: No it is not her responsibility to pick them up
Dave.
D: Well she offered so why don’t we take advantage of
the opportunity?
S: No I am NOT going to take advantage of that
because it is not HER responsibility to pick Mirrissa up for tutoring!
D: I understand Stacy, I
S: And tutoring is what we requested not what she
requested for her to tutor Mirrissa.
D: Its what Mirrissa needs yes, its
what both of our kids need.
S: Zachary doesn’t need tutoring. He needs to read
more but Zachary doesn’t need tutoring Dave, Zachary is getting straight A’s.
D: He needs to read more and this will be a great
opportunity for Zachary to you know, learn..
S: I don’t think Zachary needs tutoring. Yes Zachary
needs to read more and yes he has been but he DOES NOT NEED TUTORING!
D: If I am paying for it what is the problem?
S: Because he is getting straight A’s. I don’t agree,
Zachary does not need tutoring, he is a straight A student!
D: Any further advancement is always good Stacy. I
mean further ahead he gets of his peers the better.
S: No its not because you don’t seem to realize.. that
D: he already thinks he is year behind cause he failed
first grade, and that is already detrimental to him, he brings that up every so
often and mentions that and the further he gets ahead his peers the better, the
more confidence he will have.
S: It may build confidence Dave, but you know what
else it is going to do Dave in class, which I have already talked to his
teachers, he gets BORED because he is already so much ahead of the other kids.
D: Well then they can advance him so he can be with
his peers again, I don’t know
S: because I talked to Mrs. Kline, with some of the
things that go on in class, he was so bored that he was already so far ahead of
the students that he chooses to not pay attention because he was so bored with
it. That’s not FAIR TO HIM!
D: Well then we can talk to the teachers about either
getting him exempt or getting him certified in certain class or something that
is more to his level.
S: no no that’s, not, he
don’t go to school to be bored because he already knows all this that they are
working on class that day! So NO I don’t think that he needs tutoring. Yes he
needs to read more but I don’t think he needs tutoring! He is getting straight
A’s in everything, Dave. I understand that you want the kids to have tutoring
Dave, but..
D: Yeah, I want them to become the best they can be.
S: But you don’t seem to realize, like with Mirrissa,
you want her to go to tutoring all summer long and all I think is that its going to back fire!
D: no, Mirrissa will get..
S: But you, will you let me finish
D: yeah.
S: because I SEE how Mirrissa is doing her homework
she gets home from school at night. That is one of the reasons you wanted to
send them to the school over in
D: She will get her break every day..
S: and when she
gets to her new class she is not going to WANT to do any homework DAVE! That’s the point I’M TRYING to get across you!
She NEEDS that little break in-between, she NEEDS to
be a little kid for a little while!
D: She is going to have the break and she is going to
be a little kid. And if you are only going to have Ms. Breter for two days a
week, and a break, she has five other days of the week Stacy.
S: She is only going to go for two days a week in the
first week until she gets in the groove of things Dave, then she is going three
days a week. And it all depends on Mrs. Breters
schedule because if she has something planned with her family its not fair to take away from her kids and her husband,
just to tutor Mirrissa
D: Of course not, I agree with that, going with Mrs. Breters schedule, that is no
problem
S: As far as me taking Mirrissa to her mothers house, that is no problem, it is not Mrs. Breter’s responsibility to take her from where ever she is
at. It is OUR responsibility to ..
D: I understand that..
S: ..pick her up and take her
to the tutor
D: Yes I understand that, she just offered, no big
deal, or fine, so, Pine Trail after they go to karate, they go to daycare.
S: as far as the Pine Trail thing goes, I don’t agree
with it Dave!
D: What don’t you agree with?
S: I am sitting here looking it over Dave, the, the
only thing that they do is every other day they go to like uh, Ripley’s believe
it or not or Water Mania, and for one thing, Mirrissa don’t know how to swim
that well and..
D: Maybe she will learn
S: I am sorry but they are not going to stand over
there by the kiddy pool with Mirrissa while all the other kids are going up the
water slides and everything at Water Mania.
D: There are other kids there too Stacy. Her age, both
of their ages Stacy,
S: and and, also one day
they go to Skate and Shake or they do playground activities or they go to all
these event then the next day they have play ground activities. I am sorry, I
don’t agree with that?
D: What don’t you agree with?
S: Because at least at the other camps that I have
them registered at they are actually going to do basket
ball, foot ball, base ball, soccor,
D: what do you think ‘play ground activities’ are?
S: Mirrissa was going to get to do baton and
gymnastics and going swimming twice a day and..I don’t know if you have noticed lately how fat
your son is getting from all the junk food you have taken him out to eat when
he comes over there. Do you know that he only weighs 40 pounds less than me!
D: hmmm
S: I weighed him yesterday Dave, he weighs 85 pounds
Dave! He has rolls on the sides of him, his belly is
sticking so far out that he can’t get in to his pants.
D: I understand and we are trying to correct our diet.
S: I mean my GOD he is nine years old and he has a
double chin!!
D: yeah, um ugg, if you look
at the bottom of the schedule, we have them going to holly hill at the end of
the.. or we can have them go
before. But the biggest thing is Universal Studios,
Zach really had his mind set on that.
S: Let explain something to you, ok
D: Ok.
S: yeah, whether you understand it or not, is up to
you, but here is the big problem I have with this.
D: What is that?
S: you, are the one with the all the money and the
glory, ok, and all I hear is daddy is going to take us there, and daddy is
going to take us Skate and Shake, daddy is going to take us bowling, daddy is
going to take us to play video games, daddy is going to do this, daddy is going
to do that. What THAT teaching them Dave! Huh! And then when they come back to
my house, and they know I don’t have much money, to go to Skate and Shake or to
go bowling or go to Burger King or McDonalds every day or that. Do you know
what they tell me at my house! They tell me that my house is BORING. I’m MEAN because I don’t take them to the store immediately when
they say they want to go the store and get something.
D: Ok, can I interject any time? Huh?
S: sure
D: The reason the kids say your house is boring is because
all they do is sit and watch TV
S: Well, they don’t
D: Well that’s what they tell me.
S: NO!
D: ok, ok, I believe you. They don’t, but that’s what
they tell me. When they are here, we play Shrek 2 game, of course Unreal
Tournament, we do those kind of things, we’ve never gone bowling we tried once
but they were full, we go to Burger King, that costs ten bucks, and we go there
and um, spend I don’t know, three hours there every once in a while..
S: let me interject, if I get cut off, I am not
hanging up on you, it is just that my phone is
beeping. Ok.
D: OK, we have never gone to Steak and Shake, or um, I
mean Skate and Shake down there, Zachary went there one time because he had
that birthday party to go to down there, Mirrissa’s never been there, we went
down there to hang out and waiting for Zach..
S: ..I am just trying to say
what the effects of all..
D: We have never gone to play video games, so I don’t
know where you got that, but basically, I don’t spend that much money on them
than you do Stacy. And you know our kids are famous for lying and I understand
that completely and I only believe maybe a tenth of what they tell me at what
happens over at your house. And, yeah, I understand what you are saying
completely about that, but for so, going to Pine Trail, for their day camp for
the rest of summer, I don’t see what the problem with that is, they will be
playing basket ball and foot ball and all those playground days and they get to
go to Wet’n Wild, where we can’t afford to let them
go, and it costs forty five dollars, same as Holly Hill to send them to this
day camp. And they get to do a lot of activities, and they get to go to a lot
of different places that we can’t afford by our selves. I can’t afford to take
them to Wet’n Wild, that freaking costs, well I don’t
know but I haven’t checked it out but if it is anything like the one in the Tri
Cities, twenty five bucks for a kid, at least that was what it was for me to
get in.
S: I will have to check it out and I will think about
it, is it online to check it out?
D: what?
S: This thing you got is it on line?
D: The day camp at Pine Trail? Yeah, I sent you the
link, its Volusia county, leisure activities. And uh,
this camp ends on the 23rd of July, and um, that’s the great thing
about Holly Hill is that they will cover the rest, they will cover everything
that, they cover every time the kids aren’t in school. I talked to them today,
um, I actually thought you guys were there today, that you would have taken
them there today..
S: no Dave, they..
D: well, I understand that, Well, I went down there
and talked to the lady and um, and checked out the facility and it looks like a
great place for the kids to go, and certainly don’t have a problem sending them
to Holly Hill. However, yeah, the one at Pine Trail, well, the one problem that
I did have about the Holly Hill place was their schedule, they were going to
release the schedule on Monday of every week..
S: that not a problem.
D: Well it is a problem for me because I like to plan
things, and especially you know like the tutor, you know, if the tutor…
S: since when do you ever plan things, when we were
together you never liked to plan things.
D: That’s not what we are talking about now Stacy, we are talking about what we need to do with the kids
this summer ok.
S: I am just saying that all of the sudden you changed
all of this, well NOW you like to plan things, what happened to the last eleven
years when I tried to plan things and ..
D: I understand what you are saying Stacy, we will
talk about that at some other point, for now we are trying to get the kids’
schedule down straight, OK? So that was the only problem I had with Holly Hill
otherwise it was great, well, it was in the opposite direction of everything
else, even from your work, but um..
S: There is one thing I wanted to say before the
children say it. That I would rather have you hear from me. So that you don’t
go ballistic, I do have company coming here in about four weeks, so before you
go ballistic, and the kids tell you about it, so.
D: I wish you would more often, especially about the
kids’ schedule and when they are going to see me, anything that has to do with
them, I wish you would talk to me first.
S: Well that doesn’t have anything to do with them but
they know so I know they are probably going to tell you so I would like you
hear it from me instead of from them,
D: As it should be.
S: but the company is for me not the kids.
D: OK
S: Its going to be a guy so
before you go ballistic that somebody is here that you don’t know, I will let you
know ahead of time, they already know about it so I am sure they are going to
tell you all about it.
D: So are you going to tell me?
S: What? I am just telling you that he is coming down
here for a week and he will be here in about four weeks.
D: Who?
S: Somebody I met, so
D: Oh, oh, OH, OK, a personal..
Oh
S: I am just
telling you ahead of time before you flip out and get all ballistic when I have some strange person
here.
D: I won’t flip out and go ballistic either way but I
understand and OK I got the message and I appreciate you telling me. Fine, you
will check it out?
S: yes I will check it out
D: ok, and karate camp they
can go?
S: I guess
D: And next week they can be with me?
S: Depending on what DCF says. If I can, I will be
picking them up after I get off of work.
D: understood, understood. That’s all I wanted to go
over.
S: Are you still going to help me pay for, to get that
clutch fixed? in that truck? Because that thing died six
times driving down the road the other day, because the stupid thing would not
shift, and I had the clutch all the way to the fourth.
D: yes Stacy, I already told you that I will help pay
for that, hundred and fifity dollars?
S: Yes that is exactly how much it is going to cost to
fix it, because I have to go buy all the parts and he will change the clutch.
D: OK
S: That needs to be done real soon because I am going
to end up getting in a wreck
D: no problem.
S: and did you find the title to the truck?
D: yes I did and we will get that taken care of. I
have to call Well Fargo, I haven’t called Well Fargo to see if we can get your
name taken off the loan or not.
S: You will have to go and apply for a new loan before
they will take off my name.
D: Oh is that how it works?
S: yes, and it is very nice of you to leave me hanging
with eighty dollars on an insurance policy that was for both of us.
D: No, no I am going to pay for that, I called them
what, today and that is last months and no you don’t have to worry about that. I
will pay what is remaining and then you take over from there.
S: fine
D: Yeah I called them today and she couldn’t give me a
fucking price today but she could give you a price for remaining. I asked for
the price but …..(discussion on State Farm agent) I
asked them to just send me the bill. So
I will take care of that, and um, OK?
S: and the title for the truck?
D: and the title for the truck ok? Well, then have a good night
S: you too
D: bye
D: Hi it is just me. It’s just me if you could give me
a call back I would appreciate it. Ok bye.
D: Hey Stacy its David. If you could email me the
babysitters, I mean the day care providers, name and address then I would
appreciate that um…let the kids know I love them and miss them and I will talk
to you later. I have to run some errands now and then I have to get some more
work done so um... talk to you later bye.
Z: hey daddy its me. Just
letting you know that everything is fine and that I miss you. I love you bye.
D: hello
Z: hey daddy.
D: hey big boy what are you doing?
Z: Nothing.
D: Nothing?
Z: Just sitting down.
D: yeah? Did you eat dinner?
Z: Not yet.
D: Not yet?
Z: no.
D: What are you having.
Z: We did some fireworks. I got some cool mini-boomers
I am going to do tomorrow night.
D: Cool.
Z: I named them mini-boomers because when you light
them you gotta throw them and then when they reach
the bottom they start exploding. Did you get any fireworks for tomorrow night?
Everybody is going to be lighting fireworks.
D: I don’t think so. What for?
Z: Ahh that one day… what is
it mommy… Memorial day.
D: Memorial day is not
supposed to be a day of fireworks.
Z: Mommy said it was.
D: Memorial day is supposed
to be a day for remembering… that’s why they call it memorial. Its for remembering the dead people and, you know, the
world, and your life. That kinda
thing. So… ok… sounds like fun though. What else did you get?
Z: I miss you.
D: I miss you too.
Z: just fireworks.
D: what kind? What other kinds?
Z: umm… sparklers…
D: Yea!
Z: That’s all. I was going to get this one thing. This kit of fireworks.
D: uh hu.
Z: But it costs $5.99.
D: uh hu.
Z: But I only had $4.00.
D: Bummer.
Z: they are at Echards. The one down here. You there then they have them. What’s
that noise?
D: Motorcyle.
Z: Your outside?
D: Yea. What else is going on?
Z: mmm. Nothing.
D: What did you do today?
Z: Babysitter.
D: How did that go?
Z: No camp.
D: Yea I know that. Ok. What else is going on.
Z: huh.
M: (Crying in background from Mirrissa.)
D: What did you do at the babysitters?
Z: Nothin. (M: I want my
bird to go away) Watched movies, had snacks, went to the park. (S: your going to go to bed. Stop arguing with me) We went on the ramp but I really don’t like going on the
ramp with skates.
D: You were pretty excited about it yesterday. Did you
try doing your twister move.
Z: I tried it. (More crying)
D: and…
Z: Almost. I made four.
(M: noooo)
(S: then I am not going to do anything with it. But
your are going to go to bed if you keep standing there whining like a two year old.)
(M: STOP!!!)
Z: But I am going to call that one junior twister.
D: OK. Junior twister.
Z: I did a junior twister which is four.
D: That’s good. Did you do any other cool moves?
(M: I don’t want my hair to be curly… (Crying))
Z: Did this twist. I turned around and went backwards
up a ramp then back down. It was freaky. I almost fell and lost my balance. I
almost fell.
D: Oh no. but your recovered right?
Z: yea.
D: good deal.
Z: I didn’t fall.
D: Wow… sound like you had a lot of fun. Why do you
sound so depressed.
Z: Nothin.
(M: I don’t want another ???????)
Z: What I don’t see is what’s the
point of going to camp if we are not even going?
M: (more crying)
D: Me and your mommy have
some more stuff to work out on that. We will handle it so don’t worry about it
yet just be happy with what you are doing. Can you do that?
Z: I am going to ask mommy if she can take me to the
ramp this weekend so I can bring my bike there.
D: oh… that will be fun.
Z: ha ha ha
I know.
D: Everybody else will have their bikes their too… yea
that will be a blast.
Z: hold on let me ask her. Mommy…
D: No. Not right now.
Z: huh.
M: (more crying)
D: Not right now you are supposed to be talking to me.
Z: ok I will ask her after.
(S: turn around the other way)
Z: I will ask her after.
D: ok.
(S: poor thing)
Z: I had a pretty good day. Got a…
Z: Sounds like you are depressed too.
D: Ohh well I am missing you
guys. Yea…
Z: I miss you a whole bunch.
D: I have all this extra energy after work that I need to… you know, work off. I don’t have
anybody here too slug me in the gut or head butt me or…
Z: Head butt… we never head butt
you.
D: ohh… you rammed your head
into my gut how many times?
Z: ok… maybe
D: ok… maybe just once or twice right?
(M: more crying)
(S: stop whining like a two year old)
D: I did manage to work off some energy today.
(S: write on your pajamas and you will for sure get a
spanking)
D: I bought another basketball.
Z: huh. You got…
D: And Sascha misses you.
Z: another basketball.
D: Yea. The neighbor guy still has by basketball. He
hasn’t gave it back.
Z: Why
D: Oh I let him use it the weekend his nephews were
here. Yea it’s kind of in his house and I have not asked for it back soo…
Z: you got a new one.
D: Yea, it was only $3 so…
Z: Guess what. Down by the lake,
down by the lake. Ohh I hope it is still
there.
D: What’s that? ( more
crying)
Z: I saw a football.
D: A football.
Z: I hope it is still there by the time next weekend
D: We have a football. (more
crying)
Z: Yea but there is a very old one. (S: go get in bed)
that I saw down there.
D: Ohh. An old leather one.
Z: huh…
D: Old leather one.
Z: yea that one.
D: all the old ones are made of leather. (S: yea ya are)
Z: No its not leather I don’t
think.
D: ohh ok.
Z: I don’t know if it is leather or not.
D: Maybe it just looks old. I don’t know. (More
crying)
Z: I can’t hear you because Mirrissa is whining.
D: Yea. Why don’t you put her on the phone. I will see you when I see you. Talk to you again
tomorrow night.
Z: I will talk to you next weekend I cant hear a word your saying because she is whining.
D: I know. I love you pal.
Z: I love you too. Here she is.
D: ok. (M: I don’t want to talk.) Hello.
Z: She doesn’t want to talk.
D: What is the major problem? I heard something about
the curls in her hair or what else?
Z: She doesn’t want the curls mommy?
(S: she’s just acting like a spoiled
snot.)
(M: NO I’M NOT)
Z: She is just acting like a spoiled
snot.
(M: No I’m not… I don’t want my hair curly. I WANT IT
STRAIGHT)
(S: this isn’t what you were saying this morning.)
(M: I WANT MY HAIR STRAIGHT)
Z: ok I guess I will let you talk to mommy.
D: ok
Z: ok bye I love you.
D: bye I love you too buddy.
Z: here she is.
D: alright.
(S: I will call him later.)
Z: she will call you later.
D: ok.
Z: bye guess Mirrissa doesn’t want to talk.
D: bye tell her I love her
and I know you won’t give her a kiss for me but shake her hand or something for
me.
Z: ok.
D: alright. I love you.
Z: I love you too.
D: bye.
(hangup)
D: hello.
M: (Crying.)
D: hello. Mirrissa?
M: (Crying)
D: hello?
M: (Crying)
D: hello. Hello. Hello?.
M: (Crying)
D: hello. Hello. Hello??.
M: (Crying)
S: (Say “I love you”!)
M: (Crying)
D: hello??
S: ( tell daddy “I LOVE you”!)
M: (Crying)
S: (tell daddy I LOVE you!)
M: (Crying)
S: (tell daddy I LOVE you!)
M: (Crying)
S: (tell daddy I LOVE you!)
M: (Crying) NOOOO.
S: (tell daddy I LOVE you!)
D: (sigh)….
M: (Crying)
S: (TALK to your daddy!.)
M: NOOOO!! I don’t WANT TO!.
S: (TELL your daddy you love him!)
M: (Crying)
S: (tell your daddy you love him!)
M: (Crying) give me MY BATON!!!
S: (tell your daddy you LOVE him!) (Crying)
D: Can you put your mom on the phone?
S: (tell your daddy you love him!)
M: (Crying)
D: do what your mom says it’s the only way she is
going to stop.
S: (tell your daddy you love him)
M: (Crying)
D: just tell me you love me then give the phone to your
mom.
M: I love you daddy..
D: Now give the phone to your mom.
M: I love you daddy…
D: I love you too. Now give the phone to your mom.
S: Hello?.
D: Don’t ever do that again.
S: WHAT?? I was TICKLING her. I TOLD her she had to at
least call and tell you goodnight. Thought maybe by her listening to your voice..
M: (Crying)
S: ..she would stop crying..
M: (more crying)
S: ..and that she would talk
to you cause she DOES need to call and tell you goodnight. So don’t yell at ME!!
D: ok. Ok. So did you find out anything or do you want
to call me later.
S: yea hang on let me get her to say goodnight and
talk to you a little bit.
M: (don’t want to talk to daddy)(Crying)
D: NO its OK Stacy! Stacy don’t worry
about it. Its ok.
M: (Crying)
S: (well if you want to talk to your daddy, daddy is
right here.)
M: (don’t want to talk to daddy)(Crying)
S: (Can’t you at least tell daddy you love him and say
goodnight.)
M: (Crying:I
already said goodnight)
S: (No NO!! you NEED to tell
him goodnight.)
D: Its ok Stacy don’t worry
about it.
S: (can you do it without crying?)
M: (crying)
S: This is all about a stupid brush. This little tantrum.
D: ok.
S: (Can you tell daddy goodnight in your big girl
voice. Daddy really wants to hear you say goodnight) ok hang on here she is..
M: (crying)
D: hello. Hello. Hello. Hello?.
M: (Whining) hey daddy. I love you.
D: good night beautiful girl I love you too…
M: (crying)
D: You want to tell me what the problem is.
M: see ya tomorrow.
(Z: tomorrow?)
(S: ya talk to him tomorrow)
D: you want to tell me what the problem is?
M: NOOO!.
D: umm ok. Then I guess I will talk to you tomorrow baby.
M. ok (whining)
D: get some sleep will you? Maybe you will feel better
tomorrow.
M: Huh?
D: get some sleep will you? Maybe you will feel better
tomorrow.
M: I got a batton.
D: I heard. You told me that last night. A flexible one. Did play with that today?
M: um hum.
S: (put THAT BACK in the frigerator!! )
Z: (I know..)
D: how did that go? Did you get to do anything with
it?
M: huh.
D: what did you do with it?
Z: (sorry I eat some.. mommy?…
mommy?…)
S: (I HEARD you!)
M: I played with it.
D: did you learn how to spin it in your fingers?
M: uh hu.
D: yeah?
Z: (mommy!… mommy!…)
D: can you throw it up and catch it?
M: uh hu. I will bring it
over next weekend.
D: ok. Yes yes. Ok.
M: bye I love you goodnight.
D: bye I love you too goodnight.
(hangup)
S: hello.
D: hi, hows it going?
S: I was just getting read to go to sleep.
D: oh… I’m glad I called. Did you get a chance to talk
to Janet yet?
S: No. I called… left three messages.
D: So what is the plan for next week?
S: I don’t know Dave. I am sure you know what the plan
is for one of the days.
D: What.
S: Going to court.
D: Yea.
S: Yea.
D: What of it?
S: So what I am supposed to go to court without an
attorney?
D: I don’t know Stacy. We will talk about that some
other time. What is the plan for next week?
S: I don’t know Dave.(HANGUP)
D: so did you have a chance to look at the Volusia
county schools yet. Hello… hello…
D: Hey, its just me, I was wondering if I could say
goodnight to the kids, um, have them give me a call please. Bye.
S: Just calling for Takako to let her know she has
e-mail!
S: hello
D: Hey, how is it going?
S: (grunt)
D: Huh? Hello, this is Dave, Hello?
M: Hello?
D: Hey, how’s it going?
M: Good
D: Yeah?
M: Uh huh
D: What uh, did you guys do today?
M: Not much
D: Ah, OK, that sounds like a bummer.
M: what?
D: That sounds like a bummer
M: I know..
D: oh, oh..so
um, what DID you do? You must have done something, did
you watch TV all day?
M: yeah
D: no you didn’t,
M: uh huh, well, we played with our friends too.
D: well that ought to be fun, how long did you do
that? Hello? Are you watching TV right
now?
M: yeah
D: oh, OK, well uh, I love you
M: I love you too.
D: I guess I will see you guys in the morning?
M: uh, we are going to be at the babysitter
D: … well, is your brother around?
M: uh?
D: is Bubbua around?
M: a friend and us are
lighting some fireworks tonight.
D: well that sounds like fun.
M: bye I love you
D: bye I love you too.
Z: Hi Daddy!
D: Hey big boy, how’s it going?
Z: Good,
D: yeah? What did YOU do today?
Z: Played with our friends.
D: and?
Z: .. went
to the beach with them
D: Oh, excellent!
Z: They invited us
D: excellent
Z: today was Kyle’s birthday and I told him happy
birthday. Next weekend, which is your weekend..
D: yup
Z: well, they are going to throw his birthday party
D: uh huh
M: (at park,
Z: at a park
M: (at eleven street park)
Z: at eleven street park
D: ok
Z: you know it?
D: no
Z: I don’t either
D: I guess we will have to find it then huh? But I’ll
bet it is on
Z: huh?
D: I’d bet you it is on
S: (Don’t worry about it)
Z: huh, Oh, now I know,
S: (xxxxx)
Z: (huh?)
S: (its by riverside drive)
Z: Oh its by
D: OK
Z: do you know the
D: no
Z: me neither
D: we will have to go find it next weekend though huh?
Z: yeah but its going to be hard
D: yeah
M: (Twelve oclock!!)
Z: (stop being so loud Mirrissa)
D: so what are you guys watching now?
Z: Nascar
and Fox
D: hmm. Fun, fun. So what
time are you letting off fireworks?
Z: about
D: yeah, maybe later because it’s still going to be
light out at nine. Its getting dark right now, but its
got like twenty five minutes to go and then it will be
Z: its
D: yeah I know
Z: twenty five minutes
D: yeah, whats today’s date?
Z: May thirty first
D: uh huh
Z: but tomorrow is going to be first of June
D: yup that it is, that it is, so what uh, do you
didn’t get more fireworks?
Z: no
D: that kit you wanted? Those with xxxx
and blumers and…
Z: mommy didn’t let me get no, no um smoke balls
D: (laughs)
Z: I had enough too
D: yeah probably
Z: guess how much they were
D: uh, smoke balls?
Z: yeah,
D: probably around a dollar fifty?
Z: no
D: what?
Z: we went to Eckerds
D: ok, how much?
Z: it was only.. eighty nine cents
D: good. Good
Z: mommy didn’t let me get any because she is afraid
of smoke balls. Actually she didn’t get me get any because she was afraid people will get mad. (weren’t
you mommy? Mommy?)
S: (what? smoke balls? no Zachary I told you, I said
you couldn’t have any because I didn’t think you needed it)
Z: (I thought you told me..
well I guess it wasn’t that)
Z: Mommy just told me that she just thought that I
didn’t just need them.
D: hmm.
Z: which I did, because I wanted them, and I kept
telling mommy that it was my money.
D: hmm. But you have to listen to your mommy.
S: (I don’t care if it your money or not, I am...)
Z: Mommy just said that she doesn’t care if it’s my
money or not, she’s my mommy
D: yeah, you have to listen to her huh.
Z: (Stop kicking me Mirrissa!)
D: why is she kicking you?
S: (I only have to ask once and you are not
going to…)
Z: doing xxxx, I keep
hitting it (earring) with my hand and uh
D: uh huh
Z: cause I have an itch and I keep forgetting its
there because I can’t even feel it, on my ear
D: oh, ouch it’s going to take a little bit of getting
used to isn’t it?
Z: I have to
twist it so it would go away.
S: (XXXX ITS OVER!!!)
D: ok, so it sounds like you had fun today and you got
to have fun and that’s good, um, can I talk to your mom?
Z: sure
D: all right buddy, I love you
Z: hold on, let me see if she
will even let you.
Z: (Daddy wants to talk to you)
S: (I don’t feel like talking)
Z: She doesn’t feel like talking she said
D: What is the plan for tomorrow?
Z: (What is the plan for tomorrow? I will tell him for
you, I am listening.. I am listening)
S: (I have a fucking headache)
Z: She has a .. headache
D: um, so what uh,
Z: probably the baby sitter..
I want you to be the babysitter because you let.. but you will.. stay in.. but
D: its not my day today,
Z: well not today but..you can pick us up…
D: tomorrow is my day.. um, Ok, don’t worry about it buddy,
Z: … two hours ago…
D: just.. uh..
tell your mom I will call her later
Z: (he is going to call you later)
Z: bye I love you
D: bye I love you too.
Z: But I don’t want to go
D: ok, then talk to me some more
Z: ok
Z: (is this on long distance mommy?)
D: no
Z: its not long distance
D: so tell me some more neat stuff you did today, what
did you guys do with Kyle?
Z: went to the beach most of the day.
D: ok, what did you do at the beach?
Z: High tide
D: ok, so..?
Z: High tide today, the water came all the way up to
the cars.
D: wow
Z: Courtney, I mean
D: wow
Z: she is lucky she didn’t get stuck, she could have
backed up into the water and she is lucky she didn’t get stuck.
D: yeah no kidding.
Z: water hit her wheels and she didn’t get stuck
D: yup, yup, she got lucky didn’t she
Z: xxxx. The juniors in Nascar xxxxx
D: uh huh
Z: xxx?
D: uh, no
Z: xxxx xxxxx,
dang
D: alright, I am going to let you go, watch TV, OK,
Z: Daddy? Can you come over so you can light some
fireworks with us? I want you to light fireworks with us..
at
D: I don’t think your mom wants me over there buddy.
Z: (Mommy!)
D: No, Zach!
Z: (Mommy, can daddy..)
D: Zach, come on buddy, you know better..
Z: (I want him to light fireworks with us…)
S: (He is allowed to come over as long as he brings
nobody else)
Z: She said you can come if you don’t bring nobody else
D: yeah, ok, ask your mom what time
Z: (what time?)
S: (nine or
Z: about nine thirty or so.
S: (YOU ARE GOING OUT AT NINE OR NINE FIFTEEN!)
Z: what? eight fifiteen???
S: (I SAID NINE OR NINE FIFITEEN! YOU ARE NOT GOING
OUT THERE
Z: I said
S: (I SAID YOU ARE GOING OUT AT NINE OR NINE
FIFITEEN!)
Z: Nine or
D: alright man
Z: you will forget?
D: no I won’t, alright talk to you later
Z: you should tell Tatako,
she won’t forget
D: yeah, that’s a fact huh,
she’s got a really good memory.
Z: uh huh, or I will just call you.
D: alright man
Z: uh huh
D: I love you
Z: bye
D: bye
Z: love you
S: VM yeah Dave you need to give me a call
D: hello?
S: Dave?
D: yeah
S: uh, number one, I guess I am bringing the kids over in the
morning? Number two, you better do something about your tenants because I don’t
appreciate getting a phone call at
D: ok, why are they calling you?
S: cause I guess they don’t
have your phone number
D: who called you?
S: I don’t know who it was Dave
D: nobody has your phone number Stacy
S: I don’t know who it was Dave, it said unknown name
unknown number on my fucking caller ID
D: what did he say?
S: they told me to call you because they don’t have
your phone number and to tell you to do something about your tenants, cause
there are four or five people there right now waiting for the sheriff to come
out because the peoples dogs they are walking, the dogs are going up and down different
people’s property over there and killing the animals around there and
everything else, some guy, I don’t know, he had to take a baseball bat after them cause he was walking
down the road and they went after him. And the people won’t take their dogs in.
D: ok
S: that’s all I know Dave, at
D: like I said, Stacy, nobody I know has your phone
number so um
S: so what, you think I am lying?
D: I just don’t know what you want me to do, find out
who called you
S: you aren’t going to take care of your tenants?
D: find out who called you and I will make sure they get my phone number
S: Fine!
D: OK?
S: what?
D: so what made you change your mind about the kids?
S: Cause I don’t need to cause trouble with their
babysitter
D: huh? Me causing trouble with
their babysitter? Right, is that what you said?
S: Dave, Jesus, can we talk about this tomorrow? I
have to get up for work in fucking, five hours! Four hours!
D: ok
S: great
S: hey, did the kids have dinner?! There is one saying they did and another
saying they didn’t
D: No they had lunch.
S: Ok, cause Rissa is saying
that she had chicken nuggets for lunch and spiced chicken sandwich for dinner
and Zach’s saying he didn’t eat.
D: No they just had lunch
S: Ok thank you
D: do you know yet what you are doing tomorrow?
S: No Dave, and I WILL discuss it with you today but
you know what, the kids were not allowed to stay in the house and they were
throwing a tantrum, it is better if you could calm them down..
D: Stacy, you know it is
S: xxx Dave, I worked today REMEMBER!
D: And.. what?
So what is..
S: And as far as going to the movies or not!! I called
you from work and asked you if you had any plans tonight with the kids. You
told me that you were going to bring them home at
D: actually that was about three hours Stacy, cause the movie was about three hours long. Anyway, do you
know what you are doing tomorrow?
S: I have tomorrow off Dave! I got my schedule today!
They always do it on Monday’s!
D: ok, so what are you doing tomorrow?
S: I HAVE TOMORROW OFF!!
D: so are you keeping the kids?
S: They just spent the day with YOU Dave! There is no need to get pissed off at me Dave
D: Stacy I am not pissed off at you, I am pissed off
at the fact that you don’t know what the fuck you are doing
S: And why is THAT Dave?
D: I don’t know, every time I ask you what kind of
schedule you want for the kids, you say I don’t know, you know
S: Well you know what! Dave I am really tired, I
didn’t get much sleep last night after the lovely phone call that I got! Then I
had to turn around and get up for work today. Dave can you be
in a very good mood and think when you don’t get enough sleep?
D: I do alright.
S: well great for you!
D: well so, let me know… (hang
up)